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Where's the moaning fella , where's the negative , said horse is handy , don't see many at Rangiora with that career behind him . Chill the fuck out .

Ok here's an inconvenient truth proven over the decades and complained about by Maori leaders , a disproportionate % of prisoners are Maori and it's true so why ? , it's long been known that if you remove Maori from the stats NZ imprisonment rates are low . Reasons , for starters more are encouraged to identify as Maori even though many are Maori impersonators , classic example Anika Moa , did the DNA and shock horror barely any Maori blood , I THINK it was west African . The lefty's thrive on splitting the population that's why labour invented the grievance industry , The treaty , it created a European system to administrate the so called partnership (no partnership mentioned in treaty) . The result is tribal hierarchy combined with lawyers , classic haves and have knots , the less well off are never going anywhere , traditional tribal values will ensure the less well off will always be less well off , they have no future under this system so drugs , crime , METHAMPHETAMINE , methamphetamine trading , imprisonment . There you go Uriah and Jack that's what's happening , the treaty hierarchy is using the average Maori , give them a grass skirt and poke your tongue out , do as you are told and be happy it's all about tribal ownership which condemns many to a life of no OWNERSHIP , no long term WEALTH building but that's how labour likes it . Thank goodness NZ has plenty of Maori who are just getting on with life and just like the rest of us doing the best we can . DON'T IGNORE THE IMPORTANCE OF INDIVIDUAL OWNERSHIP and long term steady wealth building , something not recognised or encouraged by the treaty . More wellbeing , more family stability , more wealth creation = less drugs less imprisonment . HOPE I haven't upset to many but that's how I see it .

Why does it really matter I’m sure the trainer knows what he doing and I’m pretty sure your jealous that you can’t be around a good horse like him I seems to me your doing a lot of moaning

I was going to say something similar, but I decided to take Tasman's advice: "Don't bother reading my posts......ignore them ,thanks !"

Unfortunately Tasman man what you deem to be negative thoughts are actually constructive thoughts by posters that really really care about this industry and the direction in which is heading. Many have sat back and listened to the inane thoughts/strategies of industry leadership and folks like yourself for years that have gotten the industry to where it is today i.e. to the brink, so while you waffle on about racings fluffy clouds and fantasy land (btw youre welcome to those thoughts , I'm always interested in differing opinions ) leave the real thoughts to those that have been there are done that, those at the coal face that see whats going on everyday. Please don't try to muzzle people by neutering their right to reply and just makes you look silly. As for the Karaka Million , no one is questioning its popularity or its effectiveness as part of the racing calendar but rightly so questions abound as to its subsidisation by the industry, I stand by my assertion that I don't think the race day would be that different if the stakes were halved, the hype , promo , marketing,venue and place in the calendar would be the same, the BGP boys would still turn up as would the celebrities you so admire.

I was thinking of conducting a poll, but don't know how to do that. More about that later. Timaru today; 221 nominations, 12 races (they could have run 14,) 41 ballots scratched, only 5 horses scratched that were assured a start, and they all let others get starts. Dead track after quite a bit of rain during the week. Sponsors for every race. They are doing a great job giving heaps of horses a start on a decent track. But this meeting won't exist in a year or two. No meetings in Canterbury or Oamaru will exist between May and October once the all weather is built at Riccarton, perhaps the old John Grigg meeting at Ashburton. The question is this. Would Winston's $10.5m from the Provincial growth fund be better spent in the middle of a major metropolitan city, where a club that doesn't even have a public grandstand is obliged to front with another $5m to make it all work. Or might the $10.5m be better utilized to upgrade a provincial racetrack like Timaru, that has a public grandstand, and already provides a good racing surface all year, but could provide an even better track with bigger starting limits if money was spent upgrading the track and introducing a 1,400m start point amongst other things. There is even the possibility to build an almost straight 1,000m chute. They even have space to attract more trainers, while most of the major tracks around the place are selling off potential trainers facilities to fund their other developments. A case could be made for an all weather track(s) in the North Island where they race on heavy tracks for many months of the year, but in Canterbury it is already possible to race on reasonable tracks all year around with existing facilities, as we see today at Timaru. So surely in the SI the decision is quite different to that in the north. Winston does like to mention the money that will be saved by transferring meetings from elsewhere to the all weather if the weather is bad. Well, that will never happen in the SI as there will be no other meetings anywhere in Canterbury to be transferred. And if the weather is particularly bad even all weather tracks gets abandoned as we saw at Moonee Valley a couple of weeks ago. And from the sounds of the current thinking a major meeting at Riccarton won't be transferred from the existing track to the all weather because of a bit of rain. So the question is. Do people think the industry would be better off spending a precious $10.5m on: A. Funding 75% of an all weather track at Riccarton to hold $10,000 races during the winter, with the rest of Canterbury being shut down during those months. B. Funding a massive upgrade at Timaru so it can hold regular racing all year round without the need for an all weather track. At the same time reducing the need for Riccarton to race on wet tracks during the winter months.

1. closing tabs and substituting at clubs/pubs etc. (where barmen sometimes find their discussion rudely interrupted by a bettor!!)Whanganui 5 Tabs now 1 for a gen area of 60000 people. and putting pokies into remaining tabs (pushing the competition ) 2. virtually nil promotion (other than 62/63 channel )of racing (remember great promos of past) cf lotto. no excitement or advert the big winners.! 3very little coverage newspapers/racebooks/billboards. just a non event. 4.TAB behind "need" to destroy racing in large areas of nz to cut their staff costs . while necessary will have a corresponding detrimental effect on turnovers. 5.removing any discussion generators such radio channel (des Coppins and others)removing Teletext,removing on course interviews .in fact all things that may encourage betting. (not to mention removal humans sellers on course !) thats 5 for starters. if you want another 10 will provide but dont want to be a perpetual "grizzler" (but prob already have that tag ) do agree with Tasman many other areas just a sign of the times and over 50s cannot sustain an industry that has a lost generation BUT other countries have a survival plan and remain an active part of the culture. with a bit of razamatazz for the younger participants. Also agree there are no subjects raised that bring the racing industry together to fight for a common goal and incredible in fighting and selfish interests always at play. Covid 19... is another matter and TAB cannot be blamed (I dont think)but has brought all weaknesses to a head.

Nice post Baz...cheers.

You've asked the question, but clearly believe you know the answer. In your view methamphetamine is the reason for NZ's high incarceration numbers. Then you go on to say Govt's are "wimping out", Yet I read about arrests almost every day; both small time and large scale. The better question would be -why are so many Kiwi's attracted to methamphetamine use? What's going on in NZ society?

Final declarations are through for the second day of the Leger meeting at Doncaster where the ground is currently Good to Soft, Good in places. The Group 2 May Hill for the juvenile fillies over 1600m has nine runners. Two unbeaten fillies dominate - INDIGO GIRL won on the soft at Yarmouth but ZABEEL QUEEN, a daughter of Frankel, looked the part in a maiden at Ascot which usually turns up a good one and I can see why she's favourite. That being said, I think INDIGO GIRL will come on for the debut experience and the better ground and she'd be my choice. The Park Hill over 2800m has eight runners with four 3-y-o taking on four older fillies. The favourite and clear top-rated is ALPINISTA and if she reproduces her second place to LOVE in the Yorkshire Oaks, she'll win this. BELIEVE IN LOVE has been a prolific winner but in handicap company and I much prefer the Aidan O'Brien trained SNOW in first-time blinkers with Frankie Dettori on board. At 8/1, she's a sporting each way bet. It's Irish Champions weekend and I'll be posting a preview of all the top races at Leopardstown and The Curragh in the next couple of days. Thee are six Group 1 races over the two days.

Time to start the review of last weekend's action in the northern hemisphere. Friday evening (UK) saw the opening day of the Derby meeting at Churchill Downs which was held in glorious early September weather. The feature Kentucky Oaks looked a match on paper between GAMINE and SWISS SKYDIVER but in the end both were run down by SHEDARESTHEDEVIL who had won the Indiana Oaks previously but had finished 14 lengths off SWISS SKYDIVER in an earlier meeting. As expected, GAMINE and SWISS SKYDIVER went hard, perhaps too hard, from the front and GAMINE patently didn't get beyond 1600m. On Saturday afternoon in the UK, two significant races took place. At Haydock, the Group 1 Sprint Trophy saw DREAM OF DREAMS follow up his emphatic Hungerford success with a smooth win defeating outsider GLEN SHIEL with the 3-y-os GOLDEN HORDE and ART POWER third and fourth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cJkXUxMYU0 In an incredibly crowded and quality field of 1200m and 1400m horses at the moment, in has come DREAM OF DREAMS and I'd love to see him take on SPACE BLUES and perhaps PINATUBO in the Foret which, whisper it quietly, might be the race of the day in Paris in early October. He's a gelding so will be around next year and it may just be we've not seen the best of him yet. GLEN SHIEL has come through handicaps and ran a stormer under Hollie Doyle, the jockey of the moment up here. GOLDEN HORDE didn't get home in the ground and I'd want to see him back on a sound surface and this was much better than ART POWER for all he has come from handicaps to Group 1 level as well. HELLO YOUMZAIN was beaten four lengths in fifth and LOPE Y FERNANDEZ was a slightly disappointing seventh behind the veteran THE TIN MAN. At Kempton, ENABLE was backed in to 1/14 but if you had a spare £14,000 down the sofa your investment was never really in doubt as the dual Arc winner won by seven lengths. BUT.... I wasn't impressed - she completely blew the start fly-jumping in the stalls and she can't do that on Arc day as she will be left well out of her ground. Don't forget although the Arc is a French race it will be run as a British race with plenty of pace. Frankie Dettori said after the race she wasn't coping with the deeper Polytrack - for those who don't follow All-Weather racing (you soon will once you have half a dozen down in NZ), the surface can be harrowed in different ways. If it's deep-harrowed, the surface rides a lot slower (this is often done when jumps horses run on it to simulate winter turf conditions) but ordinary harrowing creates a surface akin to decent summer turf so it's favoured by flat horses. The Polytrack at Kempton has been relaid and new surfaces need deep harrowing to settle in so it was riding I'd say the equivalent of Soft to Heavy turf and I think ENABLE prefers a sound surface. I can't see her winning the Arc - I know that's tantamount to treason but she doesn't look the same horse as in past seasons. Her defeat to GHAIYYATH in the Eclipse reads very well in hindsight (on fast ground) but the King George win was nothing with JAPAN losing a shoe. LOVE gets 12 lbs and let's not forget ENABLE only just held off SEA OF CLASS on a similar weight concession in 2018 with the latter having an awful draw.

Huey , you seem a very negative person ,and how you enjoy dissecting my posts looking for a wrong word ,an error. This is a forum ...I write my own opinion based on my own experiences and participation. The restricted comment was into the referral to the Karaka races as restricted , cos they are ....only horses who pay a fee at the Sales can enter...ie the are restricted.I replied . AS to generating revenue....you think about it.....The races are linked to the sales which attracts International visitors and investors ,often an Aussie horse and/or jockey or two.Better than normal publicity , good attendance and punting , and attracts many 'new' and 'younger' folk on the day and is one of BGP 's big day. It is a great day ,again IMO. Does it generate revenue.......you work that out. I'm sure your tag -team will join in.....the ones who want Timaru developed as a state of art racing centre.....and no need to touch the track !History shows it can get wet / heavy there like most of NZ ! I know a little bit about the South Island and its racing........I have probably lived in the South Island for longer than you and your tag-team mates who will need to come to your assistance. Don't bother reading my posts......ignore them ,thanks ! As for the owners who missed a start at Timaru ,I feel for them cause happened to me many ,many times especially with Maidens and R65. You need to get some form and move up the rankings to avoid the ballot. Its happened for years and I know the feeling. I also know that NZ owners are very resilient , take abysmal returns ,increasing costs etc There are a lot of slow horses about too. I also know that we are in unique times......when covid resulted in racing closing and most horses turned out , many horses were ultimately rushed back into winter work cos of the uncertainty of insolvent TAB etc and there has been a glut of horses as a result. Even Ellerslie ,which has some Jumping races this weekend seems to have twice the normal noms. Extra races will need to be added I guess.Again owners will be disappointed . In closing Huey , dont cry ...try to create. Look at what you can do to help racing and your part in it......constant negativity won't cut it ,this is a social media forum where any thing goes ......keyboard warriors in padded cells ! If you and your followers have the answers ,join a club and get on the inside and work your magic !

Hey folks, we have a 16yo TB broodmare we are trying to find a home for. Catch The Day is by Keeper out of a Zabeel mare and the first 4 foals she left were all winners. She slipped or absorbed the latest foal but no reason to think she couldn't have some more. She is located at the Wentwood Grange in Cambridge. Photo was taken in 2016 but will try to get a newer one if necessary. Obviously she is in very good condition and reportedly has an extremely nice temperament.

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