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  1. I wish the stupid fuckin media would stop blaming Covid-19 for racing's demise! Do some investigative journalism for a change "you lazy halfwits"... and look into the real reason the industry's in this predicament!
    10 points
  2. Would have a lot more faith in DM & RITA if they cut the PR saving face crap and called a spade a spade. What’s wrong with coming out and saying it exactly like it is. That the TAB finds itself in its current position due to years of mismanagement. And that Covid merely shortened the runway to where they find themselves today. What’s wrong with saying it as it is rather than blindly using Covid as an excuse. Would have a lot more faith in the way forward if that was the case rather than trying to use Covid as a cover up.
    9 points
  3. Has it occurred to you that maybe, they believe it ?
    8 points
  4. Insider

    Our lovely TAB website

    Footnote to the above. Wake up Dean and the Board. Listen to what the grassroots are saying, including your close friends Andrew and Tony.......get rid of those who created the problem, not the young passionate, enthusiastic young people who will do the job for a quarter of the salary. Liz
    5 points
  5. rdytdy

    Jason Waddell off To Oz

    I have no doubt that Jason's exceptional riding ability can see him compete at the highest level in Australia. He is coming off the back of a record breaking season here in NZ. After resuming in September following six months off after having surgery in just seven months he smashed his record for stakes winners and stake money for a season. Eleven G1 rides saw him with 4 wins, 2 seconds, 1 third, 3 fourths and a fifth. His last three rides before Covid were successive winners at Trentham including the G1 NZ Oaks on Jennifer Eccles. With the uncertainty here in NZ with regard to
    5 points
  6. And they way that they are saying that Winston bailed out the Racing Industry says it all! He bailed out a government run organisation called the TAB, nothing more, nothing less.
    4 points
  7. 100 1

    Gizzy gone

    How many young people gained a love for racing over the years by attending their local meetings? They haven't factored that in when centralizing racing IMO The socialist Govt is anti racing and not supportive....racing's biggest problem How racing would change with a govt(although profiting) who promoted it with a twice weekly MSM feel good stories and racing news. Ain't gunna happen
    4 points
  8. bus stop

    Naughty Rooster!

    Understand the R.I.U. Rooster Investigator Unit are on the case lets see if they cock this one up.
    4 points
  9. Can't see the need for an independent review. Why can't Dean McKenzie just do this as part of his job?
    3 points
  10. The whole nz media is fucked
    3 points
  11. The TAB was set-up to service the racing clubs and now they have no service to offer them so why does it still exist?
    3 points
  12. This is a major concern. I am on the board at Counties and the way things are at present for our Cup day: There will be no oncourse presenters (not a top 20 race meeting) There will be no oncourse terminal operators. I can guarantee that those that turn up once a year will not be aware of this. It will be a sh1t fight.
    3 points
  13. Huey

    Gizzy gone

    I'm not following you here, it sounds like that was all funded by the club itself to bring racing to its local community, where is the cost to the industry? If the club want to fund these meetings like it appears they have , what is the issue? Youre also not taking into account the cost of running meetings at other venues that is clearly the case. Good for them if they want to race at HB, it won't be the same though, doesn't matter what you call it its still a HB meeting . I'm in two minds about a club like Gisborne as they don't have any horse population there, but from what you've quote
    3 points
  14. Peter Harrop

    Gizzy gone

    The question with track closures is whether the long term cost savings are greater than the long term loss of profits from reducing exposure in regional communities.
    2 points
  15. I doubt you know how to tie your shoelaces ...
    2 points
  16. Ditch the TAB and bring back on-course bookies.
    2 points
  17. Exactly.....all he's done is covered the Suits arse's temporarily.....nothing here to grow the industry. In fact the Suit's have completely fucked the future with more of their poor mentality thinking and decisions made since Covid-19 lockdown! Media Radio/TV , Tote Operators , Commentators, Presenters etc etc....UNBELIEVABLE!
    2 points
  18. Gruff

    Gizzy gone

    Why didnt Avondale grow Rice
    2 points
  19. 100 1

    Gizzy gone

    When did the govt last promote racing publicly? They have bailed them out to stop losing an industry and maintaining a tax revenue. Imagine promoting racing to a level they promote fake climate change. $2 billion a year wasted on Paris
    2 points
  20. Insider

    Gizzy gone

    You are kidding aren’t you? This government has tried to do more in the last two years than the previous one did in nine. Prove me wrong with facts, not stupid statements.
    2 points
  21. rdytdy

    Our lovely TAB website

    And they are paying Paddy Power $330,000 a week for this platform. Ludicrous!!!
    2 points
  22. Alright having independent review but at what cost, more money going down the shute and whos friend is doing it. They still keeping owners and trainers in the dark over next seasons stakes and where is the promoting of the industry gone or coming from, all negative to date. So while everyone in the industry is back getting horses ready for racing one can only conclude they haven't got their finger on the pulse and our industry will die a slow death.
    2 points
  23. Yes...Gisborne, Wairoa, Waikouaiti and Omakau! Go figure! Thank God they left alone Tauhereikau!
    2 points
  24. Bound to be some opportunities for the club ......it's a new beginning. Everyone on here has heaps of ideas how to attract people to races ,and show them a good time. The Clubs should be running the raceday . The TAB desperate to stay in business ,but will be obviously offering even less services than previous so IMO it needs the Clubs to step up & more collaboration called for. The TAB won't want to fall off the the cliff ! Invite the BGP for the day . Charge an admission fee .....and include a couple of $5 easy bets. Get the Miss Pukekohe Potato entries to give them o
    2 points
  25. Total madness no matter what George thinks. TAB should never have got involved in media apart from anything directly concerning wagering. Rugby and the other sports don't expect the TAB doing their media yet are there holding their hand out. Why should racing rely on TAB for what they themselves should be doing. Lets get back to sanity TAB stick to wagering and the codes stick to doing their own media. Perhaps we can get back to the old NZBC broadcasting on 2YA.
    2 points
  26. Industry should be demanding it if the Racing Minister doesn't when review is finished.
    2 points
  27. I am sure that some of the big wigs will be gone once the review is completed
    2 points
  28. I would like to know who is conducting the " independent review " on the top 6 . Why was it not stated who was doing it ? . If anybody has that information it would appreciated . Secret in house reviews never go anywhere .
    2 points
  29. No surprises here, in fact I think we all anticipated that the real issues would not have been addressed. I really feel for the future of NZ racing, it is getting worse with each announcement. I can see them asking for a second bail out within 6 months, good luck with that. Current effort gives savings of 11mil a year. Can the useless bloody website just walk away there's 17mil a year, pretty bloody simple. They have a perfectly good website gathering dust. Just do it, stop the shagging around. I am really worried this current untouchable team will stuff racing fo
    2 points
  30. CT"s

    Jason Waddell off To Oz

    I think he’ll do alright Ted. Will be a bit of a grind at first and he’ll have to do the hard yards to make his mark but he’s definitely got the talent for sure. Just needs the right horse to showcase that talent and maybe Jennifer Eccles could be the horse to do that for him. Look forward to seeing what he can achieve over here.
    2 points
  31. LightsOut

    Gizzy gone

    A lot of things cost the Industry money but they are very small compared to what the one biggest cost to the Racing Industry is.
    2 points
  32. Leggy

    Gizzy gone

    And importantly, maintaining a racing presence in the Poverty Bay area which is what Messara recommended.
    2 points
  33. Gruff

    Jacinda Ardern

    Megan Woods just threw 37 million dollars into a hole. Worldwide they have been ‘working on ‘so called vaccines around Sars type Coronaviruses for decades, the money Big Pharma have been allocated around this is mindboggling and for what? You have to remember a Moratorium around working with these ‘viruses’ was introduced to protect people from the risk associated with experimenting with these types of pathogens, and it seems more than just coincidence that the Horse shoe bat coronavirus found by Ralph Baric in 2015 ends up creating all of this carnage... if you watched the Bill Gates video a
    1 point
  34. TurnyTom

    77 racedays

    77 days for Addington, for 85% of them there will be 200 on course, just the involved Addington have to have a strong marketing plan or it will be same old, same old. Don't wanna be negative but one hell of a job for Addington to be succesful here with a public that has become anti racing, or certainly not pro racing
    1 point
  35. Oncourse bookies are dying world wide. Less and less in UK, Ireland and Australia. With betfair you can choose who you lay, not let the customer choose.
    1 point
  36. Guinness

    Gizzy gone

    I gained my love of racing sitting on my grandfathers knee listening to the wireless and you obviously do not know what constitutes a "Socialist" government. This government has also been good to the industry. Stop with the pro National rhetoric and check the facts please.
    1 point
  37. Guinness

    VIRTUAL TIPSTERS THREAD

    Miravalle tomorrow race 1 Canterbury Park in Oz. Sibling to Yankee Rose.
    1 point
  38. TurnyTom

    Our lovely TAB website

    More issues late this afternoon with fields not loading, $50mil of shyte
    1 point
  39. sign up for Arion Pedigrees Race Tracker Its all free the service is great (better than even the old TAB website was) and the whole system works
    1 point
  40. But they will be able to I bet when gallops recommence - Winston's backers will be looked after.
    1 point
  41. I hope everyone cuts out betting until all the big wigs are sacked
    1 point
  42. Given racing will only be on a couple of tracks and the propensity to abandon at true winter going, I'd be mildly surprised if Ruakaka wasn't utilised for a meeting or two between July and September.
    1 point
  43. Exactly so what is left, brain dead nilers!
    1 point
  44. tasman man 11

    Gizzy gone

    You have been very critical of track closures .......if you gather the facts re costs to the industry ,especially the TAB , the picture becomes clearer. Several clubs have been very prudent and built up nice nesteggs/cash reserves over the years. Poverty Bay ,it appears , has some $2 million in cash and Investments .WOW ! Another point of interest is IMO.....a lot of clubs are run by Volunteers and some have strong ties with their communities but this could be debated too ,and they are constantly looking for help from TAB , Government funds and other grants etc just to maintain
    1 point
  45. puntwarriors

    Tips of the day

    I'm keen to help get this going and I will look to daily post of my best bets through NZ greyhound fields
    1 point
  46. You guys are dreamers
    1 point
  47. We are now using the exact same script with the A/W tracks , too few making the decisions with very little input from industry participants . The main point for me is that NZ racing isn't big enough for 3 A/W's , circa $39mil for 3 tracks is money that could be spent in a much more sustainable way , that is before factoring maintenance costs . These will become bigger white elephants for NZ racing than the FOB debacle . In 10 years i believe they will either be sitting redundant because of a lack funds to repair or upgrade , or because of a lack of use due to participants having lost faith in
    1 point
  48. That was when racing was going down the road of getting outsiders in to run everything, on the assumption they were more intelligent than racing people. And they had to have their quota of women as well, culminating in the shotputter of course. None of those theories proved successful of course, as the industry ultimately found out to its great cost. Somewhere along the line the concept that racing was club based and the racing conferences and racing board, under its many names, were elected to run the industry for the benefit of all participants was abandoned and we have ended up with un
    1 point
  49. Jape

    Barry Lichter's News Stories

    I was on the NZGRA Executive when the Racing Bill was formed and discussed so was not really privy to the what, the why and the whatever. I had to relinquish that position when I was appointed to the TAB and at that point it was assumed that the Bill would become the Act within weeks or at most a couple of months. Things can take their time in Parliament and Racing is rarely a high priority. (It never ceases to amaze me that the politicians are so unaware of the amount of money that racing puts into the Government's coffers, for very little input, as well as boosting the pay packets of s
    1 point
  50. Great job Barry you nailed it with one glaring exception, the person who arguably contributed more to the clusterfuck than any other individual: GLENDA FUCKING HUGHES - she brought Allen... who brought the new website.... she must so proud.
    1 point