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  1. New bet types for Egames I hear. And then there's American racing which is just as bad. Nebraska or some such place racing the other day - just numbers and horse names. No form, no jockeys, no trainers. Nothing. They expect people to bet on this rubbish? But bettors clearly aren't the mugs they think we are. The pools were so small they paid out two quinellas at Remington Park today paying 70 cents each! Why would anyone bother betting on this rubbish? I didn't think it could get any worse with the TAB offerings but even they continue to surprise me with their contempt for their customers. Stay safe people.
    4 points
  2. Ouch, for a Yank, that hurts. At least, some jurisdictions are still running. I've been to the track in Nebraska that you are referring to, Fonner Park. It's a fun little 5/8ths mile track with its own little idiosyncrasies, much like Aussie country/bush racing. As for no form, you are misinformed. All you need to do is go to https://www.drf.com/ and purchase the form. Attached is the form from last Wednesday. As for the pools being small, again, you are incorrect. Here is a comparison of Fonner Park last year versus this year: Mar 24, 2019 - $279,577; Mar 25, 2020 - $1,643,825. This was all-source handle, each day ran 8 races. So minus the Pick 5 pool, each race had around $180,000 in WPS, Exacta, Trifecta, Superfecta, Pick 3, Pick 4 pools. Hardly small pools. People are definately betting Fonner Park. Have a look at the pools for Gulfstream Park for yesterday (attached). I didn't feel like doing the math, but for the 14 races, I'm sure it is well over $20 million. You used Remington Park, which is currently running a quarter horse meeting. There is very little interest in quarter horse racing in general, so using them as an example was a poor one. So the problem is that you bet US racing into TAB pools in NZ. I run into the same problem when I bet NZ racing here, very little in the pools. One of these days, NZ and US racecourses will work out how to effectively co-mingle the pools like we do with Hong Kong. Until then neither product will be worth betting in to. FWIW - I still greatly enjoy tuning into and watching Kiwi racing. To all down under, stay safe and healthy. Cheers. FONNER, 03-25-20.pdf GP, 03-28-20.pdf
    4 points
  3. Well the first thing NZTR could do, is announce right now that they cannot afford to sponsor the two Karaka races to the tune of 250k each. 500k will be a lot of money going forward.
    4 points
  4. In all the doom and gloom, all the moaning and whingeing, how about a bright spot, Saturday afternoon's racing was great for Kiwi's! Although I missed that Trackside 2 had better coverage of Rosehill. I'm a Verry Ellegant fan all the way, so just loved that win, and people raving about the leaders bias..... really!! She was no where near the lead till she changed gear in the straight! Quick Thinker, Night's Watch (no where near the lead either!) , Probabeel, Chris Waller, JMac, it was a great day for kiwi connection's!
    3 points
  5. Looking back....as recent as the 'talk' John Allen gave at Ellerslie May 2019 I believe then he must have known they were close to 'broke' or 'trading while insolvent'. He gave a few hopeful COULDS ,SHOULDs and MAYBES about more revenue from Racefields ,International fees and Abolition of Gambling Duty etc. But revenue was down plus they had lost a few elite punters and costs only down a slice of cheese. All his hopes seemed on RITA and Messara report.....looking back he was very hopeful about new REFORMS. But the numbers were bad. Revenue down and dropping ,equity gone from $70mil to $23 mil in past 2 years and distributions paid to Codes were more than the profit. In addition in past year the credit line from bank had been drawn down an extra $25mil taking it to $35 mil. So he must have known that even if he hit every jackpot , realistically possible , that Bank loan had to be paid back by 2021. He must have known he was 'Trading while Insolvent' or very close to it. Funny that several of these guys are now associated or have been associated with both NZ Racing Board AND ATC financial disaster......and they continue to be ! I don't feel sorry for them....as Sandry said "NZ racing people very resilient ".....he meant to say mugs !
    3 points
  6. I can't see what you are getting at other than some point score. My message is straight forward. Any exec or whatever that was creaming massive undeserved salaries should not now be adding to the burden. Had they performed in line with their salary TAB would actually have SOME money.
    3 points
  7. Statistically 'thousands of deaths in NZ' is impossible if we look at what is happening around the world. 80000 deaths really!!! We have 1 at this stage. A load of bollocks by a bunch of modellers/scientists!! Not every mechanic is a good mechanic! We had the Tsunami drama, then we had the earthquake drama and if it wasn't for the fact that the Maoris were running the Whakaari stuff we would be having some drama there as well. We will end up having 'Wash your hands a day' every week until we get bored with that and move on to another calamity!! Don't get me wrong, I don't want any loss of life anywhere but it seems human nature is looking for anything to get us to the next point!! My thoughts are with any lives lost through any disease!!
    3 points
  8. Another expert on tv1 this morning claimed that if NZ hadn't gone into lockdown then 80000 people could have died. When asked how many would die now that we were in lockdown he didn't have a clue. So the reality is 80000 could still die.
    3 points
  9. Totally agree. I have no doubt this hasn't been thought through enough. Herd immunity is the only long term course (apart from vaccination) to get back to normal. All of this lock down is a political solution to attempt to restrict visual social media from displaying the short comings of a health system in disarray and the inability for governments to efficiently manage health outbreaks such as pandemics. We should have been prepared but we weren't. We had plenty of notice (SARS, MERS, Ebola etc) but no notice was taken. Even when the reports of a potential pandemic in China was in play, our health officials ignored it. The government ignored it. So this lock down is all about mitigating the risk of social discord and buying time because we weren't prepared. Hollywood even beat governments to it. Now to the facts: Health Condition Period * Registered Infections Deaths % Deaths to Registered Infections 01-01-2020 Tuberculosis 2,490,000 475,000 15% Malaria 17,100,000 101,000 0.50% Aids 37,900,000** 192,500 0.50% Influenza 19,000,000** * 38,333 0.20% C-19 622,395 28,804 4.60% Measles 650,000 35,000 5.30% * From 2018 figures ** have the disease *** Estimated as a percentage So that tells us where we are in terms of other conditions that have been plaguing us over the years. The three that really interest me are TB, Influenza (Flu) and measles as these are viral and have vaccines for them. The Flu interests me because the reason for annual flu jabs is that the flu strain seams to be a 2 yearly mutation. That is why every year they go hard at getting this winter's flu jabs. As we already know that C-19 has had one mutation cycle. " As the new coronavirus continues to spread around the globe, researchers say the virus is changing its genetic makeup slightly. "Viruses mutate naturally as part of their life cycle," says Ewan Harrison, scientific project manager for the COVID-19 Genomics UK Consortium, a new project that tracks the virus in the United Kingdom." So here we are, politically smashing the entire financial environment, which theoretically will cause more deaths than the virus itself. There is a direct correlation between the financial stability of human beings and ill health and death. So let's keep to the facts. If we have 800 ICU beds available that have respirators, and we have a population of 4.5m and we know that statistically 80% of the population will get this, and we know that 6% will require hospitalisation, then we need 216,000 beds. If the virus cycles every 7 days (mean is 6.8 but there has been one outlier of 27 days - that complicates things somewhat), then to avoid a political and social meltdown of people being cared for in the corridors and lots of dead bodies shown on film, we need 25,000 beds to smash this over 10 weeks. This presumes that we can control the contagion to space the infection exposure to approx 450,000 people per week. Each ICU bed is approx $3500 each so therefore we need approx $87m for equipment. Say we need places where 200 beds can be put under roof. These places must be able to cater for 200 people for food and ablutions. That means we need 150 facilities that can be converted quickly. We also need say 1 educated helper per 5 beds. That means we need to quickly train 5000 people to work a ICU bed. We also need overseeing doctors and emergency stuff and personnel for when the shit hits the fan with those that should die but can be saved. This equipment and this group of people will be the tricky thing to source. This is where the army comes in. They have a lot of kit that can help but probably not enough. But they do have people with mobilisation knowledge and skills. The rest, we buy. We offer offshore people a fortune to help us for 6 months and we go hard. You do realise that our race tracks may have facilities that when converted can help? They have space, kitchens and location. They are invariably attached to a town. Those towns have doctors and I''ll bet you there are volunteers everywhere to be educated, or wish to help. So to the cost?......less than $500m with a bump of three months and it's all over. Weigh that against 800 beds available during isolation where "hopefully" we'll stamp it out but like measles and TB we won't because we can't have all the borders closed for ever and this virus is seriously contagious. What are we to do in the future? A new virus has come to town. You really think it can be eliminated when measles and TB can't? And what of the Spanish Flu that allegedly killed 50m World wide. Have a read https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-i/1918-flu-pandemic This C-19 flu is a different version of it and somehow we have to get resistance to it or subscribe to waiting for a vaccine that may affect us for many years to come. Read about it Hopkins Research Centre attachment... I listened to a Zoom cast put on by the Weizmann Institute in Israel. They're probably known around the World as one of the most progressive research centers on the planet. Gates gives them $250m a year. The Zoom Cast had sqillions of viewers. Through Following At Home, they've allegedly linked together 2.1m computers to make the World's largest super computer. They are now open sourcing a collaborative initiative between 2000 scientists and laboratories. Included in the initiative are four of the largest AI and machine learning centers to analysis and process the data being created. There allegedly are over 150 lab simultaneously conducting tests on humanoids to establish what works and what doesn't. There is another set of labs inventing shit that can only be described as a World collaboration. The vaccine that they are attempting to make will be open sourced. No one will own it. On record is the head of that facility saying that normal vaccines take 8-10 years to develop and cost $1-1.5b to make. They think they can do it in 4-4 months. The real issue is manufacturing, where he said sourcing the components (set aside the manufacturing) could take a further 4 months. So we at best are in a 8 month hold pattern for a vaccine that has never been delivered in a time from of less than 8 months, but is probably longer. So for us, we will be locked up, closed down, locked up, and closed down as outbreaks occur. We will not have freedom as we know it until we are all infected or the vaccine arrives in no earlier than 8 months. In the meantime, Rome burns....how do we fund the cost of all of this without ripping everything apart for many years to come? Racing could play a big part in all of this. I'm currently exploring the ability to link all of us together for a Zoom cast so that we can all get the juices flowing. We have an opportunity here. We just need the right people, the right mandate and the right direction to get things going. I'm not impressed with the level of info and thought by our leaders to this point so we have to take the matter into our own hands. Sorry for all the spelling mistakes or lack of some grammer but it's Sunday and I feel lazy Hopkins Research Centre.docx
    3 points
  10. I don't get why people are so up in arms about Nztab taking betting on E Sports. It doesn't interest me in the slightest so I don't bother even looking at it but I know of people who love esport so now being able to bet on it makes more new money coming in through the door and who knows they might like the punting thing and end up looking at other options including horse racing. I had an old school mate who opened an account to bet on surfing and it wasn't long before he was messaging me asking me for horse tips. As for American racing it is ashame there is no world pool as I'm sure there would then be more interest. It is funny how people look at different countries racing and say how bad it looks etc, I know I have said the same at some of the Japanese stuff we get fed but then think to myself it would be a similar look to those countries when they watch NZ in the middle of winter spread out over 300 meters at the finish.
    2 points
  11. Generally I always ask would you buy what you breed. If your answer is 'No' then best to get out (unless you have tested with a few on the ground and they have proven your eye is rubbish). If it is 'Yes' then keep going and see if you are right. Breeding is the easy part (not financially of course) but I have found people have rose coloured glasses when it comes to the actual reality of what their 'champions' can do. Culling is the hardest part, and even harder when its your own. Good Luck
    2 points
  12. World pools in my view is the road forward.
    2 points
  13. Should be to get racing back on track......the past two seasons more money has been paid out in Code Distributions for stakes etc than was made [ bottom line profit] Equity [Assets over liabilities ] went from $70 mil in 2017 to $23 mil in 2019. In may 2019 I went to John Allen's presentation. It basically was 'smoke and mirrors' they gave a handout with very small graphs which could hardly be read and the one showing equity shrinking while distributions incresed was glossed over. He spoke of challenging trading conditions ,but concentrated on 'sizzle' such as 40,000 new isomers and total customers up 6%. And COST MANAGEMENT was strict with Op expenses down $900k He concentrated on Racing reforms...RITA and Messarsa report and how NEW legislation could....add $10mil thru Racefields , $6 mil Point of consumption [International fee] and abolition of Duty could add $13mil. Unfortunately us folk that go to those things spend the time telling him to introduce more concourse doubles ,and how we need a race book or Friday flash etc and we lack detailed analysis of the actual numbers and performance. Looking at the printed accounts now ,briefly , one could conclude that they were probably trading while insolvent.....broke. Hoping for a magic wand from RITA and Messara and probably all the time hoping on handout from Government once the Industry itself waved the wand....made changes. The loss with bonus bets the straw that broke them !
    2 points
  14. Agree, at least 95% should be put up from NZB because at the end of the day they are nothing more than sweepstake races. $50,000 should be put up by NZTR because they are Listed Races and they are betting propositions. Anyone disagree?
    2 points
  15. Slammy the CRUX is that there will be NO Money coming from the TAB . It is BROKE and will need a massive bailout. that will see it go into administration. Lets keep the discussion sensible and not points score. Please be aware there will people and horses welfare and ability to have a decent life.seriously under stress. Trust me I know!
    2 points
  16. This globalist Gates wants to depopulate! He even gave a speech about it....he controls the vaccines and wants you micro chipped....not gunna end well for Bill
    2 points
  17. Its here, been here since the first Chinese came back from Christmas holidays, its widespread, and no amount of locking down now is gonna stop it. The govt probably had an idea that the numbers were bigger and widespread but choose the b/s route in the hope they wouldn't get caught out, but as I said the truth won't be known until we test EVERYONE NOW. The fact the numbers are much larger and the hospitals aren't overflowing is more than likely that it is NOT Ebola or Smallpox and the death toll will be closer to the normal flu results. Every single person that arrived in this country in the last two months should have been detained and isolated, EVERY SINGLE ONE. Because as the govt has found out, any exception means the plan fails ... The absolute bullshite that has been happening at the airports/cruise ports, has and continues to be appalling. Unbelievable that only a week ago you could get past immigration with a "Yes, I will be a good boy/girl" response.
    2 points
  18. Thanks Scooby for that great information. To those with a “herd mentality” solution I think you would have us dealing with this virus forever. Here’s my logic in support of our current Government measures. The virus decays over time. NZ is an island with no land borders, so it only comes here in infected people. Stop the infected people coming here and passing it on. We missed this chance to stop it in its tracks (hardly surprising given it was likely here undiagnosed before we knew much about it). Still this remains essential and now we have a coordinated approach to keep more of it out or stop it spreading if it gets here. So accepting the disappointing fact that it was here, stopping it spreading was a no-brainer, only act quickly (unlike Scomo and his mates). This shutdown, as damaging as it is economically, had to be done, immediately it was known that infection was spreading here. Shutdown and hugely increased monitoring will beat this nasty thing. Yes I do sound like a media release from the Labour Party, but use your own logic and see where it leads. Heard Nigel Farage speaking on the Australian and UK situations this morning, never followed overseas politics and didn’t actually know much about him, but he talked real sense today. Those countries will end up in shutdown and the time taken to take the brave decision will mean it will last longer than for us. My horses are in light work with their local track closed; ready for when racing returns. My bet is NZ will be back racing for many weeks before Australia (who likely won’t be running in a fortnight from now).
    2 points
  19. How brutally correct. Anyone or group that can maintain their own income or salary in these devastating times deserves substantial bonus. They are obviously geniuses.
    2 points
  20. From John Hopkins Hospital. The following is from Irene Ken physician, whose daughter is an Asst. Prof in infectious diseases at Johns Hopkins University, quite informative. * The virus is not a living organism, but a protein molecule (DNA) covered by a protective layer of lipid (fat), which, when absorbed by the cells of the ocular, nasal or buccal mucosa, changes their genetic code. (mutation) and convert them into aggressor and multiplier cells. * Since the virus is not a living organism but a protein molecule, it is not killed, but decays on its own. The disintegration time depends on the temperature, humidity and type of material where it lies. * The virus is very fragile; the only thing that protects it is a thin outer layer of fat. That is why any soap or detergent is the best remedy, because the foam CUTS the FAT (that is why you have to rub so much: for 20 seconds or more, to make a lot of foam). By dissolving the fat layer, the protein molecule disperses and breaks down on its own. * HEAT melts fat; this is why it is so good to use water above 25 degrees Celsius for washing hands, clothes and everything. In addition, hot water makes more foam and that makes it even more useful. * Alcohol or any mixture with alcohol over 65% DISSOLVES ANY FAT, especially the external lipid layer of the virus. * Any mix with 1 part bleach and 5 parts water directly dissolves the protein, breaks it down from the inside. * Oxygenated water helps long after soap, alcohol and chlorine, because peroxide dissolves the virus protein, but you have to use it pure and it hurts your skin. * NO BACTERICIDE OR ANTIBIOTIC SERVES. The virus is not a living organism like bacteria; antibodies cannot kill what is not alive. * NEVER shake used or unused clothing, sheets or cloth. While it is glued to a porous surface, it is very inert and disintegrates only -between 3 hours (fabric and porous), -4 hours (copper and wood) -24 hours (cardboard), - 42 hours (metal) and -72 hours (plastic). But if you shake it or use a feather duster, the virus molecules float in the air for up to 3 hours, and can lodge in your nose. * The virus molecules remain very stable in external cold, or artificial as air conditioners in houses and cars. They also need moisture to stay stable, and especially darkness. Therefore, dehumidified, dry, warm and bright environments will degrade it faster. * UV LIGHT on any object that may contain it breaks down the virus protein. For example, to disinfect and reuse a mask is perfect. Be careful, it also breaks down collagen (which is protein) in the skin. * The virus CANNOT go through healthy skin. * Vinegar is NOT useful because it does not break down the protective layer of fat. * NO SPIRITS, NOR VODKA, serve. The strongest vodka is 40% alcohol, and you need 65%. * LISTERINE IF IT SERVES! It is 65% alcohol. * The more confined the space, the more concentration of the virus there can be. The more open or naturally ventilated, the less. * You have to wash your hands before and after touching mucosa, food, locks, knobs, switches, remote control, cell phone, watches, computers, desks, TV, etc. And when using the bathroom. * You have to HUMIDIFY HANDS DRY from so much washing them, because the molecules can hide in the micro cracks. The thicker the moisturizer, the better. * Also keep your NAILS SHORT so that the virus does not hide there. -JOHNS HOPKINS HOSPITAL
    2 points
  21. 1100 PEOPLE RETURNING TO NZ over Sat and Sun.Only quarantine for those who have no plans to self isolate. Should be compulsary for all returning NZers to be quarantined. ''We went hard and early''' what a joke. Another platitude served up by these eggs
    2 points
  22. meomy

    Golden Opportunity

    With the current WHO ordered guidelines to lockdown New Zealand we have the golden opportunity to promote & keep up the interest of the Racing industry through the likes of Radio Trackside with archives full of great history of our Racing contributors across the years. Why is Radio Trackside not playing these stories? Come on folks, this is a Golden Opportunity to encourage and revive an interest in racing as people reflect on the goodness we have had in society. Trackside TV must also take up these Golden Opportunities. How hard is it for those with IT skills and knowledge of how to source these archives to get the ball rolling? We all have the basic lawful rights to Quiet Enjoyment of life and that includes ensuring the BETTERMENT of all today and in future. It's times like this to dig out all those good stories the likes of Phil Leishman and other great Racing people before and after him recorded for us. and share them among the wider community which includes those who are looking for something to partake in and listen to as there's only so many Updates & Spin about Covid19 people can tolerate and will take notice of. Trackside should also allow the return of the public voice and opinion on radio by encouraging a talkback session or two - they would hear from people other than the usual ones as their are those at home who may not have previously had time to partake. Meanwhile the world keeps ticking on. It's the Racing Industries Golden Kiwi 0pportunity to keep up and revive all the people of New Zealand's interest in racing. In the not to distant future when this disruption is been put behind us people will be looking to have their normality back in life and hopefully a new appreciation of what has always been there to enjoy in the great outdoors
    1 point
  23. I'd be much more worried about Ukrainian table tennis to be fair , I don't care if it's fixed as long as iam on the winner Vlad Knockapingpongballova
    1 point
  24. Nukkledragga

    Where to Next .

    The numbers from china compared to the rest show us all what can happen if you go hard, go early.Love them or hate em they put a lid on it , gave the rest of the world a lesson that most have chosen to ignore because of 'ideology', it feels so much better dying OUR way than surviving THEIR way.
    1 point
  25. Hey no offence to you Scanman or Fonner Park, Remington Park or any of the other courses where the NZ TAB offer betting. I'm sure some of these meetings are first class as you say. But why would I want to buy form for a meeting when the TAB can't even be bothered doing that from the very website you refer to? They only have themselves to blame for getting small pools. It's contempt for their customers and just plain lazy and this hasn't been happening just since Covid-19, it's been the fare handed out for quite some time. Good Luck to people who want to bet on esports as long as they are aware it is ripe for game fixing - but I guess that's true for just about any sport if people have a mind to do so. Scanman I fear you may have misunderstood - I wasn't talking about the on-course turnover at Fonner Park or at the other US tracks themselves, I was talking about the NZ TAB's betting pools for most of these American races being so miniscule as to declare 70 cents dividends for $1 for two quinellas (Remington Park). The turnover would be miniscule here. Co-mingling would be the answer as you say but at present we seem to have common ground on there not being any value in betting on those races in NZ - which was exactly my point. Keep safe. Kind regards, HS.
    1 point
  26. kilcoyne

    Crazy times

    Got the trifecta in this race boxing the southerners
    1 point
  27. Add the fawning TV3 coverage, including Fish Boy and HRH last night......
    1 point
  28. Nukkledragga

    Where to Next .

    What we as a country have done should take the gamble out of the equation to a large extent.People are still crossing our border, people are still violating the lockdown rules even medical pros are risking it all just doing their jobs, but their efforts must not be wasted by a few selfish twits.If the lockdown only works half as good as we want, it is still twice as good as Aus ,as the numbers WILL show as time rolls on.
    1 point
  29. When we're the good times ? It's always been a massive struggle in NZ kept alive by the commitment and love of the game of many.
    1 point
  30. rdytdy

    Jacinda Ardern

    Good morning to you all; my Coronial Subjects, it is I: Go-hard Go-early Jacinda, Queen of New Zealand, Most-efficacious Saviour of the Nation. You will all, by now, in this time of crisis, have noticed the superb communication skills I wield in the baddle against our common enemy, and my udder determination to rid this pleasant land of private enterprise and misconceptions both. To this end, I have been extremely clear and transparent from the ged-go, and on top of things, hard and early, prepared and ready to employ both my communication barrels, yes – head-nods AND double-adjectives – in my war on pestilent truth. Those of you, my subjects, old enough, will remember my press conference of March 4th, 2020, when I nodded so furiously to emphasise a point I loosened a filling: The BFD Reacting to the news of a second Kung-flu victim within these shores I employed a precise word as an adjecdive, an old word, a word older even than the Boomers, a word derived from Veritas – my predecessor as Goddess of Truth – to describe the potential risk posed to those who came in contact with asymptomatic Kung-flu carriers, saying to the nation: not that the risk of transmitting the virus was “low”, nor did I say the risk was “very low”, you will recall I declared the risk as “very, very, low“. And that is why we are here. The BFD. Screenshot idbkiwi I will now hand over to Basil Bush, Coordinator of Operations for the Ministry of Truth, to explain my demeaning. Thank you for understanding.
    1 point
  31. Wonder how many home burglaries there’s been ?
    1 point
  32. IMO all people who are classified as essential workers at the very least should subjected to the COVID 19 test,otherwise we may have people processing bread,meat etc spreading the disease to other workers and the purchases of these food items.
    1 point
  33. By end of prep I was suggesting it was probably his last run before a spell. They don’t tend to over race them and it was the horses first campaign, so I’m picking he will be going for a spell. They don’t tend to send them out when they are knackered.
    1 point
  34. It was a bloody awful ride, as noted on Racenet. Might as well have stayed home, never given a chance in that race. JA would have been aware of lighter weighted horses, like the winner, who could stay, so should have ridden the favourite accordingly. The way he finished off, way too late, did not suggest he was “at the end of his prep” either....as I said, I’m surprised stewards did not ask questions given it was a 2-1 shot. DUD OF THE DAY – ADELAIDE ACE Honourable mentions to the riders of both So Si Bon and Grand Promenade, supporters of these two deserved much better.
    1 point
  35. Philip Island beach on the weekend.
    1 point
  36. Could be the start of big changes to how races are funded in the future.... https://www.racenet.com.au/news/the-championships---prizemoney-of-top-10-races-slashed-in-half-20200329
    1 point
  37. Can we expect Bernard's next update to include "we are reducing salaries of all NZTR employee's who's names appear in the front of the Monthly Racing Program including RIU, Investigators etc by 50%. I doubt that there will be any reducing of Salaries. As Winston quoted me, "NZTR are the peak" There is nobody above them. Nobody can tell them to reduce salaries or do anything. This would have to come from with in and this will not happen. Our only chance is the TAB is declared Bankrupt and we start a whole new organisation. Otherwise there will be no change. Just more pain.
    1 point
  38. You think that's bad. Betfair, in an attempt to get betting on soccer even had betting on a match where the away team was paying $1.65 to win. The match was Slutz versus Dinamo Brest. I imagine that it was women's soccer.
    1 point
  39. Gruff

    Trump written off

    And Trumps not perfect... but you knew that
    1 point
  40. mikenz

    TAB to go tits up

    I haven't had a bet 4 a couple of weeks or so,and in reality I don't really miss it,it can be a habit especially in these smartphones days
    1 point
  41. Red Rum

    TAB to go tits up

    Used to go to pub quiz night with group lads few years back . Being rating 65 on brains collectively we won odd bar tab 2nds 3rds 4ths that kind of thing , thing was more we spent on it the more it went up. We said hey this not right we must be on about 80 bucks not 150 it cannot be right , they reset it to 80 , fxxk my days the next week we brought a round checked later in night we on about a ton. Weirdest shit I've known accounting wise , until I read about the TAB losing 3.8 mill. What mugs . Anyway the pub went bankrupt quick smart .
    1 point
  42. mikenz

    TAB to go tits up

    I haven't had any 5 or 10 buck bonuses from the tab lately to get me back in the game,maybe if they give me 10 they may be out of the game
    1 point
  43. mikenz

    TAB to go tits up

    Into the last 10 mins,its 1 1,will there be a third goal,I wonder what the betting total is ,be interesting to know
    1 point
  44. mikenz

    TAB to go tits up

    I see that they have betting on esports all the betting sites are doing it ,also betting on Nicaragua premiers,I bet at no stage in their history has interest been so high.
    1 point
  45. SMD is rife

    TAB to go tits up

    Be the TAB engineers and raceday control staff I'm picking.
    1 point
  46. I'm obviously not needing a trip to Specsavers yet Greg
    1 point
  47. Ponderosa8

    Mulit issues

    Because you went for "Any 2" it would be calculated as follows: $1.45 x $2.50 x $0.66 = $2.39 collect $1.45 X $1.55 x $0.66= $1.48 collect $2.50 x $1.55 x $0.66 = $2.55 collect Total collect is $6.42 (give or take a couple of cents depending on roundings up and down etc). If there were any late scratchings in any of the races that you got a collect, then deductions would make your collect even less. FYI, if you'd only picked 5 selections and spent the $10 you would have got $1 units, picking 6 selections you would have had to spend $15 to get $1 units
    1 point
  48. 100 1

    Trump written off

    So while you are being brainwashed by some virus, Trump is taking down the corrupt Fed which is 1000x more significant clown. All under the state of emergency. Trust the plan Go back and wash your hands
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  49. An article said that the NRL players are in for an 87% pay cut, in the Warriors case, that would be based on performance as they only look of any use for 13% of a game
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  50. slam dunk

    Where to Next .

    What do you mean Obama failed miserably? he started the whole normalization process and Trump had to sabotage it. Offcourse its also an education or research purpose but don't forget the courage of these Cubans. People will start to realize the truth soon so at least this crisis may achieve something.
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