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Was more impressed by Two Illicit. By the time and ease of her win, she could have won Herbie Dyke Stakes?

I don't get it and I'm fuming. How the hell can the Sir Tristram Classic be renamed the David and Karen Ellis Fillies Stakes? NZTR....work out your policies in respect of naming these important and historic group races, especially the 3 yo group races. We have catalogues where we try and work out the merits of the black type races. If you change the names how the hell are we going to follow what race is what. And fancy changing the name from an iconic stallion that is immortal to a race after two people's name where one of them is the chair person of the racing club. if you get a sponsor, then call it the David and Karen Ellis Sir Tristram Classic. Come on you people....this is crazy

No. When the Derby was on Boxing Day the Waikato Guineas was run in early November. That changed when the Derby was moved to March, and until recently Te Rapa had two Saturdays in a row, and the Guineas was run on the first day and the week later the Sir Tristram Fillies Classic. Now Te Rapa only has the one Saturday meeting instead of two, so the Guineas is on the same day as the fillies race and just a week before the Avondale Guineas at Ellerslie. So basically another programming failure that no one thought 'is this a good idea' before they went through with it.

Yesterday at Caulfield we saw a fantastic win by Alabama Express and we will probably see a lot more from him. Paul Moroney bought him for A$280k at the Easter Sale in 2018 for brother Mike to train. Alabama's Express' dam Lago Ovation is an unplaced mare by Encosta de Lago from a good imported family. Several members of the family have worked very well with Redoute's Choice so it is not surprising Paul had a hard look at the colt at the sales. Rekindled Outlook is a half sister by Flying Spur --similarly unplaced when racing, was sent to NZ to support Ferlax when he was standing at Haunui. The 2 colts by Ferlax from the mare sold in Book 3 for $3K and $2.5K. The Novara Park guys now own the mare (probably bought very cheaply) and have bred her to Sweynesse, so they now have possibly got a Book 1 mare.

so why are you pushing your ridiculous opinions in this RACING forum...….f##k off to fairyland where you belong

Don’t forget Dr Susan. Going great over there

Not only that... they closed the bar at 5:00pm before the last race and before the runners had even crossed the line! Too bad for the winning connections of the last few races wanting to celebrate their victories. Terrible treatment to patrons...basically saying piss off and get out.

Meanwhile, Boris and the Poms go nuts...... https://www.whichcar.com.au/car-news/uk-petrol-diesel-cars-banned-by-2035?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020_02_09_WhichCar_Weekend&utm_term=list_whichcar_newsletter

Spot on. The rivers of waste - plastic and other - pouring into the sea concern me much, much more. As long as there has been a planet Earth with a climate, there has been climate change. If it hadn't been for an event of catastrophic proportions that knocked off the dinosaurs, we [as a species ] wouldn't even be here. But the way we are going, it seems unlikely that we will knock them off their perch as one of the most successfully adapted animals ever....

My worry is that as ever we desire to lead the world and could drive ourselves to poverty when in reality anyone who's travelled knows 90 per cent of world's pop don't know where we are , who we are , what we do let alone what we doing to "save the world" with our minute population number, and if they do know all above trust me they couldn't give a fxxk what we do here .

How good was he because he had 2 monster qualifiers, went off at 3/5 odds and came home like a "Hurricane" according to the announcer, Dexter just turned him loose and never pulled the whip. He flew home. I've been telling some of these idiots over here that Purdon has like 5 or 6 that are better than him, AM I right

Hope you made a quid RR....

Guys please, did no one see Self Assured smash em last night in the Hondo? he did it tough to boot, check it out..... https://www.hrnsw.com.au/trotstv/replays/44980 Cheers Iraklis

Was it inaugurated as the Sir Tristram Classic? If not, what was it called before then? Not terribly fussed on the name but sponsorship is always going to change from time to time and if I had a horse good enough to win it I probably wouldn't give a toss what the race was called. Whether it was a Group or listed race would be more important than the name.

They pay the sponsorship money they can call it what they bloody well like...instead of whinging why dont you sponsor it yourself. No I have no connection in any way to TA but really you are whinging about someone putting up money and calling the race as they want.... get real!!!

1st 2nd , and a 1st out 3 selections in 2 races . That be 100 per cent by my maths.

In to go Wednesday at Dover Downs, so must have been a minor problem, RACE 11 - DOVER DOWNS - Late Betting - Wed, February 12, 2020 - Post: 7:50 PM Conditions: FILLIES AND MARES OPEN HANDICAP POST POSITIONS #1 - #4 DRAWN POST POSITIONS #5 & #6 ASSIGNED Gait: Pace Purse: $27,500 Class: fmOPENHC Distance: 1 Mile Strs: 6 HN Horse PP Med. Year to Date Driver Trainer ML Odds Base Claim Sts W P S Time Earnings Stable 1 VALUABLE ART 1 L 6 1 1 0 1:51.4 F $26,340 Corey Callahan Nicholas Callahan 0-0 $0 2 MOMENTS OF JOY 2 5 2 1 0 1:51.0 F $41,550 Victor Kirby Bryan Truitt 0-0 $0 3 BARON REMY 3 L 5 1 2 1 1:55.3 H $23,800 Andrew McCarthy Ron Burke 0-0 $0 4 ROCKIN THE BOYS A 4 L 4 2 0 1 1:53.2 H $25,200 Andrew McCarthy Andrew Harris 0-0 $0 5 BETTOR JOY N 5 L 2 0 1 1 - $9,250 Tim Tetrick Jim King Jr 0-0 $0 Victor Kirby Ross Wolfenden 6 MAJOR OCCASION A 6 4 2 1 1 1:49.4 F $33,650 Dexter Dunn R. Nifty Norman 0-0 $0 Top of page

Iraklis youe are right a wins a win and it was a good win but the commentators have been labelling him the best horse in Australasia and I don’t think he’s there yet .

With Aussie racing following on its commonsense to keep at least 1 bar open for an hour after the last to mix n mingle and have a couple more punts . You’ll find the bar staff just want to get outta there ASAP.Club needs to step up and sort out whoever is running the bars.

All different ages but I would say on NZ runs you would be right I stand to be corrected but Self Assured looks like he would be a good 10 lengths better than Jesse Duke Then there was Ultimate Sniper plus his older Ooen Class horses If Lazarus was a brnchmsrk I’m predicting Self Assured will be the one to match his achievements, unless the standing start trips him up at Cup time Just my opinion Mikie

Sondland left me with one everlasting thought/question. “How did he ever make Ambassador?”

Yep, didn't think my memory had them tagged together. Forgot about the effect the Derby move had. Think the Avondale Guineas was held beforehand too...? So we don't have a mortgage on programming oddities down here, clearly.

Electric trucks I dare say will take longer to charge and have a reduced range. Many racecourses are ideally situated to offer charging & parking facilities therefore that would seem a profitable commercial exercise. On raceday the driver leaves the truck or car to charge and goes enjoy the racing. 2035 is too long 2025 a better target,

don't you mean...YOU'RE a class act....

It’s tricky to see what value sponsors get. Without naming rights it gets hard to promote them. I personally think the sound of Te Akau Racing Sir Thristham stakes would have been better ring to it than the Karen and David Ellis stakes.

or maybe base your opinions on 22 other MIT scientists who disagree with Lindzen….he's another hoaxer

Obviously not yourself, that's the trouble. I agree with Berri let's focus on the horses, like another thread going on at the moment about the Grace Millane thing, why is that in the Thoroughbred cafe ???

Trump released the transcript clown. Read the bloody transcript. When the whistleblower testify's and declass happens the impeachment process will be taken off the record forever because it was an illegal process and the perpetrators will be dealt with accordingly.. In the meantime keep living in your fake world and keep siding with the criminals because it's entertainment plus.

You just proved my previous point where the media and brainwashed idiots like you are going to blame Trump for firing these deep state lying leaking traitors.....even though they gave false statements and lied in an attempt to overthrow a duly elected president. This is exactly how Team Trump are going to educate the public....let the media scream as usual then release the real evidence.to destroy them and until the people realise the truth.

I have just finished putting in a submission to the racing bill as regards the formula for distribution of funds. Not hard to do, just go to parliament. Nz and it’s easy to find. I would have to say it’s a pity HRNZ has not been proactive in encouraging people to put in submissions because if the recommended formula for distribution of funds is adopted race stakes for harness will decrease significantly. HRNZ should have put out a guide weeks ago on how to make a submission & published template submissions to help people make a good case for retaining the current formula. Good on Mick G for bringing this up on the Box Seat.

I believe that HRNZ gave permission for the TAB to take more Aussie thoroughbred racing on Saturdays and get therefore a %age of the take.

Very impressive. Colgan thinks she can win the Derby and he would know.

And there's the evidence.

One cannot help but feel you are dead right Tom.

Surely the biggest question is whether NZ racing, with its lack of depth can afford to run a 3yo fillies and a guineas race, both for the same stake and over the same distance, on the same day; with fields of 6 and 7. And what does it say for the colts and geldings when two fillies decide the males are so weak they might as well line up against them, and the best male finishes more than 13 lengths off the winner. If it wasn't for the fillies lining up the group 2 status for the guineas would have been history.

Agree. It's way over-the-top, as if there is shame in calling it the New Zealand team.

Sponsors come and sponsors go but the race remains.

When reading all these South Island comments cannot help but feel we have no leadership and are in serious strife

It's like the bizarre obsession in sport to give everything a marketing name. I can't think of one NZ sports team that isn't called black socks, or black jack's or something equally daft.

Plenty of tracks available.,..Timaru, Rangiora, Motukurara, Waimate, Oamaru....now what's planned for those tracks?

If the horse is as good as Rita, what chance?

Loved the way Jason Waddell summed up the ride on The Mitigator, rode exactly the way he needed to try and upset The Shark who proved the Class once again . He is a man that does his homework, unlike Slammy who just follows blindly and never backs any claims with substance

Liqour licencs stopped the fun with no BYO. It is racings job to create interest in horses.

Some great racing but has the club lost touch with the general public ? Crowd looked very sparse .Maybe a free Waikato might of worked better than a free ice cream .

You sound like the PR agent for the Ellis's. I don't think you read or get what I originally said. Sir Tristram is iconic. He was a breed shaper, an outlier for want of a better expression. It may have been that he stood at Cambridge Stud, but Sir Tristram is now part of our history. That fillies race should always have a name that doesn't change. Any entity that wants to sponsor it should have their name tacked onto the front of it. The reason for this is that when we look at catalogues, we want to know what race is what. If you change the name how can you tell. The sponsorship may only last for a couple of years for all we know. Seriously Scooby....you don't get the beef?!?

Legends Day 2020, sees the prominent raceday turn into a family affair with the three key races sponsored by ardent supporters of the Waikato Racing Club.The Dyke family have long been associated with New Zealand Richest Weight For Age, the $400,000 Herbie Dyke Sprint. Herbie was a past president and his influence on the Club has left a lasting legacy.Joining the Dyke Family on February 8th is Joan Egan, who’s boutique nursery Legacy Lodge will take the naming rights to the Group 2 Waikato Guineas and the Ellis family. Joan Egan has been associated with the Legacy Lodge Sprint held in November since 2013 and has proudly extended her sponsorship portfolio to include the Group 2 Waikato Guineas from 2020.David and Karyn Ellis have also increased their already significant support of the Club to take on the sponsorship of the Group 2 Fillies Classic as their own legacy race.When the prestigious race came up they jumped at the opportunity to support a Club that they have both given so much too. David being a member for over 30 years, a past Board Member and Chairman. Karyn currently holds the Chairmans position. Between the pair they have given nearly 35 years of administration service to the Waikato Racing Club.Karyn commented "it gives us both extraordinary pleasure to become the long-term sponsors of this iconic fillies' race. The Waikato Racing Club is a pivotal part of the vibrant Waikato racing scene and has a bright future ahead. This Group 2 fillies' race has always attracted Group 1 class fields and we are proud to be associated with it. It is a key player in the NZB Filly of the Year Series, such as racing and the Club itself have been a key part of both our lives. It was our strong wish to continue to support the Club long after our time on the Board has concluded.Always one to recognise the team that goes in to preparing these horses at the highest level, David and Karyn will gift the winning strapper $500 in lieu of a dress rug. So Berri why can they not sponsor the race...Cambridge declined for whatever reason...good on them for stepping up to the plate and taking the race on. Racing needs sponsorship and they should be applauded...JMO.

The Clover Export Maiden Races that used to be run at Gore were questionable imho , licenced business or was at some point but that's really not flash .

Those liners are packed with women and piles of free booze

Sort them out Barry. After all it’s your club. I am still hammering on at Trentham, and sticking up for them when I have too. P.S. Rumpole reincarnated.

Certainly better than being stuck on a Liner full of Coronavirus ........