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  1. 3 points
    Scanman

    Three more dead at Santa Anita

    This is just more of the frivolous outrage by those who simply want to shut down racing at Santa Anita. If they are successful, they will move on to Del Mar or some other venue. The dirt surface was not the issue concerning these three fatalities. Two occurred on the grass course and the other was a training collision with another horse during morning track work. Everything that I have read indicates that the track maintenance staff have done their level best to ensure a safe surface; both dirt and grass. If you take the track out of the computation, the other logical conclusion is running unsound horses or the influence of drugs as part of the training regimen. Both would fall to the trainer and/or track veterinarian. Concerning drugs - I believe these fatalities will continue unless changes are made to eliminate raceday meds. Concerning track surfaces - Obviously the safest in order would by 1) Synthetic, in particular Tapeta 10; 2) grass; 3) dirt Unfortunately, we have no national governing body, so it's down to each State to regulate their own racing. Some do it better than others. California obviously is not doing a very good job. One thing I would be curious to know is the fatality rates in NZ or the UK and other first world racing nations. If anyone has these statisics, please pass them on to me.
  2. 3 points
    Leggy

    Dean McKenzie road show

    Bernard should stick to (or maybe start) his knitting and start sorting the code level stuff and leave the TAB to sort out how to maximise revenue from NZTR events as you say Patiti.
  3. 2 points
    doric68

    The tail wagging the dog

    I have just read an article so is this true.Racing stakes are $50 million,costs to run the RIB is greater than that,more people employed with big money wages.Is this jobs for the boys & bugger the racing industry.
  4. 2 points
    winx21

    Dean McKenzie road show

    After all the promise and false hope from the messara report being implemented we are now rapidly approaching a point of the permanent demise of the racing industry certainly in the central districts and south island. How has it come to this? I thought dean McKenzie peter vela and Winston were on our side? who are we fighting against? some nameless unelected bureaucrat's from department of internal affairs? Cannot believe they seriously suggest giving all the power to the racing minister so we can get more john allens and glenda hughes types who know nothing about racing and wagering We give away our intellectual property for free while sports keep there's? Can anyone tell me how much rugby,basketball etc contributed to the creation of the betting platform that we bet on those sports or did racing fund the lot? And what is the ramifications if the tab went down the line of what's happening with Victorian tab? What about the outsourcing of the tab? Are the really going to take on the big corporates? Dean answered a lot of these questions saying its basically the same? really ? and does that mean what passed in 2003 was right? I cannot see any stake increases anytime soon if ever,betting levy is only filling the gap for what was borrowed! Sooo many questions ,feel free to answer them for me!
  5. 1 point
    tim vince

    Where

    Breeders Trump up their product. Tons of 2 year old racing in Aussie.maybe we don't have stallions that produce early speed. Maybe announce no 2 year old racing till March save owners a lot of money.
  6. 1 point
    Basil brush

    REAL NEWS

    Sure as hell aint wee Mattie
  7. 1 point
    lamour

    Hows this for Soundness

    Excellent post Nelli. I have said before, there should be some way of accessing where a horse is competitive and letting them stay in that grade. Sure if they start winning all the time then they would have to go up in class, but that would be a way of keeping more horses racing here.
  8. 1 point
    GOM

    The tail wagging the dog

    If it is correct Doric it will be no big surprise yet absolutely disgraceful
  9. 1 point
    https://www.racenet.com.au/news/star-harness-duo-to-leave-for-usa---with-a-warning-for-australian-officials-20200121
  10. 1 point
    Nelli

    Hows this for Soundness

    I would like to see HRNZ survey owners that sold/ retired horses last year as to the reasons they did so. I'm sure they can access the names of the contact owners and organise it so responses are anonymous. Such a survey may put proof in front of decision makers as to where to target their efforts to retain racing stock. Sure some horses go unsound, owners want to breed from a mare while still relatively young or the money is just too good to refuse. But how many of us who pay real money to trainers have sold/retired our horse because it is rated uncompetitively and we can't afford to keep on racing it? The curse of repeatedly running 4th or 5th with no rating change is soul destroying. With sadness we sold our good horse after a whole year with just a single 3rd placing. He still has plenty of racing in him as since sold has had Group placings and Group 3 win in Aussie in the last couple of months. We would have liked to race him till his teens ourselves but he just wasn't paying his way.
  11. 1 point
    Patiti

    Dean McKenzie road show

    Bernard talking to Peter Earley on radio today going on about partnerships. joint ventures and outsourcing the TAB still and how they are going to fight hard out to get what they want. As usual takes no account of other codes and sports and makes a lot of unsubstantiated conclusions. The whole process is rushed with no real cost analysis or projections. Best we keep the faith and trust in the Minister and appointees to get it right.
  12. 1 point
    shaneMcAlister

    Dean McKenzie road show

    Thanks for clarification. John Allen was a good example of what a govenment board would appoint us.
  13. 1 point
    Leggy

    Dean McKenzie road show

    The government did not appoint John Allen. The RB did and that had 3 code appointed members on it. That's probably a good example of why code appointments to the board should not be persisted with. Read the RIS for a fuller rationale as to the other option being preferred. Makes a lot more sense to me.
  14. 1 point
    TurnyTom

    Dean McKenzie road show

    I can see immense issues coming up soon. I am not feeling positive, at all
  15. 1 point
    eljay

    Where

    Well at least Tas there is no Pick 6 this week at Alex Park. Last race would be a field leg I suppose. Incidentally I believe this race is purposefully the last race on the cards because of all the shadows cast on the track by the sunlight on the light poles which, unlike Cambridge, cannot be lowered. I suppose the next problem is going to be the sunlight reflecting off the glass windows on the new buildings but I suppose no one has thought of that yet until it actually happens. That would be a new reason for stewards to abandon a meeting I suppose. I see the Lone Star reckon they will be open in time for the Easter Show - they well may be but will they be able to trade as the chances of the rest of the sites being completed by then and the car parks etc. being ready I would think would be pie in the sky. I reckon there will be some very worrying times coming up over the next few months.
  16. 1 point
    Trump

    Three more dead at Santa Anita

    I wonder if the use of pain killing drugs on injured horses is an issue? Maybe they allow horses to be trained or raced under the influence of pain killers and as a result there is a higher incidence of racing/training fatalities?
  17. 1 point
    Trump

    Are the Whip rules working

    Why does NZTR dilly dally around on the whip issue? Surely they could set the world on fire by banning whips? Show leadership etc. it won’t make any difference to NZ racing will it - other than chalk up at least one good move that will have the World of Racing sit up and follow little ole NZ’s lead. The Trainer’s lobby can’t be so strong that they might offer any meaningful objection.
  18. 1 point
    GOM

    Are the Whip rules working

    I can never get my head around the whip doesn't hurt them argument If it doesn't hurt them then why hit them? People are much more aware of the whipping these days, they notice a horse being flogged. In my early day's the like's of Bill Skelton were praised for their ability with the whip in a close finish. Watching international racing it becomes obvious the best jockey's seem to use the whip the least. Whips will be banned sooner or later that is certain NZ may as well get some kudo's for being proactive rather than being forced into it.
  19. 1 point
    Berri

    Are the Whip rules working

    The current usage of whips need to be banned. Animal welfare is here to stay. NZTR needs to start thinking of the future. Ban the use of whips for 2yo racing as a start. That means they don't become whip educated. Then ban current whip use in all 3yo races the following year and whenever a three year old is in any race from then on, no current whip usage allowed on any of the other contestants. After 5 years you have no current whip use. Whips should be renamed and only carried as a prompt or for steerage management issues.
  20. 1 point
    Leggy

    Are the Whip rules working

    Completely agree that they should be allowed to carry them as you say. Certainly, that they may not rotate them and I'd say not use them for urging purposes with their whip hand off the reins. They should be allowed to change them from one hand to the other. Why NZTR still haven't fixed this is beyond me.
  21. 1 point
    voice of reason

    Are the Whip rules working

    totally agree ...the rule is there for a reason...enforce it properly and severely. agree p4p, then we would see who the true horsemen are..the premierships might look a bit different.
  22. 1 point
    poundforpound

    Are the Whip rules working

    I can’t understand why NZTR doesn’t ban them Jockeys should be allowed to carry them but only for safety and guidance and they can’t rotate them which basically means an end to hitting behind the saddle Mind you such changes would require vision and an understanding of animal welfare .. and we’re dealing with NZTR here
  23. 1 point
    GOM

    Best Dog

    What an exciting race and great win. I would not put it in the same league as Dyna Vickers AK cup effort though as Vickers was in a G1 final and his effort was extraordinary. I think Dave's win was more a credit to his intelligence than guts. The field sort of packed up at a crucial time in that race and Dave made the most of that. Very good effort by a very good dog though. See what happens in the final. If he is able to put up a similar performance in the final I will rethink it but it will have be bloody good to head off Vickers effort in that cup final.
  24. 0 points
    eljay

    Where

    Across the forehead presume you mean . A blinding light from the Penthouses.
  25. 0 points
    shaneMcAlister

    Dean McKenzie road show

    When the government done our last appointments they gave us Glenda Hughes and John Allen (a man that never walked in a TAB before he got his job and has never had any involvement in the industry before his appointment).