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Jason T's father Basil died Tuesday. Commiserations to you and yours Jason, I am sure the racecafe familys' thoughts are with you

Hats off to Jason Teaz calling the greyhound meeting on Tues , only hours out from finding out his Dad had just passed away. Hercurlean effort. Basil was a real character and I stand to be corrected but I reckon every horse Basil and Helen took to the races was a winner. RIP Basil

Thankyou Mike.appreciate it greatly.A sad time but dads finally at peace

This guy on to it

Im in full accordance and agreement with everything you posted TM. Any good trainer wil tell you that most injuries occur to those animals with the most abilty as they try harder. It happens in both codes as well with TB's having many knee and joint issues that require chips removed etc. Greg

My experience with many horses spread around many different trainers leaves me with a different perspective . I actually admire their horsemanship in recognising issues and then seeking the medical attention to correct things.Of course the owners pay for the treatment but the horses earning capacity often extended. High profile examples like Turn It Up get the headlines and its story to me is one to be admired. The horse is placed superbly thru its 3 and 4 yr old career racing brilliantly in top races .....no lameness..wins the Jewels. MP senses a niggle , does the tests and finds there is some small problem so nips it in the bud before it becomes a big problem....masterly horsemanship I say. Race on and things could be much worse.MP can do the right thing for the horse particularly as his stable has 4 or 5 others who can be set for the races the re-hab horse could be chasing. Many horses are asked to race on with issues ....many horses...if a trainer has one top horse his reputation/future may depend on it. My personal experience tells me that the best horses seem to try harder so are more prone to some injuries/issues.....many of my best have had very short careers ,sadly. I admire horse people who can manage horses that others would discard....I have experience of some in both codes. A couple of years back an old school friend self taught himself in harness ,developed a Group 1 performer and was getting constantly bagged not only on social media but also in the press......he is/will be breaking horses down etc by starting them off too early ..high attrition was the phrase then too. I spent a morning at his stable ,had lunch etc and talked horses.It turns out his horses were very happy hardly ever saw a vet and most [ all his horses were for sale] raced for very long careers. But its easy to sit at home get eaten up envy at other peoples success and quote perceptions and gossip as 'facts'.

I only saw race 5. Taking into account that that digital television highlights colours, I wondered how in hell Aaron White could see those colours at the 800 metre peg with ordinary, but powerful, binoculars, in that awfully subdued light. It was an incredible performance, by the commentator.

ENTRY THREAD : "A Warm Welcome to Winter Racing" Points Comp : Saturday 15 June Beaut to see you all again POST YOUR SELECTIONS AND JOIN IN THE FUN TO CELEBRATE THE START OF WINTER RACING WHERE WE'LL TREK THROUGH AWAPUNI, IPSWICH, ROSEHILL AND SANDOWN LAKESIDE ! Rules: 1. Select ONE horse in each race. Please post using the horse number. You can post the number and the name if you want, but if the number and name are different I will go with the number and disregard the name. 2. Points allocated for placings: Win 5 pts / Second 3 pts / Third 1 pt 3. Comp races 6, 8 and 11 are bonus races and you will earn triple points if you win ie. 3 x 5. Second and third placing pts remain the same ie. 1 x pts. 4. Select two comp races as your Best Bet races and any pts earned will be doubled. You cannot use a BB on a bonus race (6,8 or 11), if you do it will be disregarded. 5. Any scratching can be replaced up until 1.45pm. After 1.45pm any scratching will go on the TAB sub. 6. Entries close at 1.45pm - 9 minutes before the first scheduled comp race start time. Additional Rule for Winter as we know how often track conditions can lead to .... : 7. If a meeting is abandoned then any selections and BB's used on any races not run at that meeting are void and BB's will not be placed by me, on your behalf, on any other comp race. If it is a bonus race then that bonus race and selections are also void. If a meeting is abandoned before 1.45pm then you can re-allocate a BB already posted by you at that abandoned meeting to another comp race, but you must post that BB re-allocation before 1.45pm. 8. and most importantly ... Have fun (Ties will be decided on number of winners selected over the day and then seconds and thirds. If still a tie, you share the accolades ) Prizes 1st $100 W/P Bet 2nd $50 W/P Bet Schedule of Races: Comp R1 : Awapuni R4 1.54pm Redstag Open Handicap 1500m Comp R2 : Rosehill R3 2.40pm Events by ATC Handicap 3YO & Up 1300m Comp R3 : Rosehill R4 3.15pm # TheRaces Handicap 3&4YO 1200m Comp R4 : Rosehill R5 3.50pm TABCORP Handicap 3YO & Up 1800m Comp R5 : Sandown Lakeside R5 4.05pm Sandown Handicap 2100m Comp R6 : Rosehill R6 4.25pm Winter Cup GLR 3YO & Up Quality 2400m (Bonus Race) Comp R7 : Rosehill R7 5.05pm TAB Rewards Handicap Fillies & Mares 3YO & Up Handicap 1500m Comp R8 : Ipswich R7 5.17pm Channel Seven Ipswich Cup GLR Quality 2150m (Bonus Race) Comp R9 : Rosehill R8 5.45pm Rosehill Bowling Club Handicap 3YO & Up 1100m Comp R10 : Sandown Lakeside R8 6.05pm Sandown Handicap 1600m Comp R11 : Ipswich R9 6.32pm TAB Gai Waterhouse Classic GLR Fillies & Mares Quality 1350m (Bonus Race) You can use the posting grid below or you can post your selection in race order, up to you I'm happy with either : (please remember BBs cannot be used on the bonus races 6, 8 or 11) Comp R1 : Awapuni R4 1.54pm : Comp R2 : Rosehill R3 2.40pm : Comp R3 : Rosehill R4 3.15pm : Comp R4 : Rosehill R5 3.50pm : Comp R5 : Sandown Lakeside R5 4.05pm : Comp R6 : Rosehill R6 4.25pm (Bonus Race) : Comp R7 : Rosehill R7 5.05pm : Comp R8 : Ipswich R7 5.17pm (Bonus Race) : Comp R9 : Rosehill R8 5.45pm : Comp R10 : Sandown Lakeside R8 6.05pm : Comp R11 : Ipswich R9 6.32pm (Bonus Race) :

Dear Chestnut, These are Wrinkles Tip's : Comp R1 : Awapuni R4 1.54pm : 3 Comp R2 : Rosehill R3 2.40pm : 4 Comp R3 : Rosehill R4 3.15pm : 2 Comp R4 : Rosehill R5 3.50pm : 7 Comp R5 : Sandown Lakeside R5 4.05pm : 1 B/B Comp R6 : Rosehill R6 4.25pm (Bonus Race) : 4 Comp R7 : Rosehill R7 5.05pm : 8 Comp R8 : Ipswich R7 5.17pm (Bonus Race) : 1 Comp R9 : Rosehill R8 5.45pm : 13 B/B Comp R10 : Sandown Lakeside R8 6.05pm : 2 Comp R11 : Ipswich R9 6.32pm (Bonus Race) : 1 Thank you .

Very thoughtful of you WAP to piggy back on the opening post informing of the horses knee issues getting treatment and a note of encouragement to one of the owners. As you say this was mentioned in the media and ongoing information regularly updated on the stable website. However even though all this information is in the public demand you add your own twist...."the stable though has a high % of horses with injuries". A high %%%%%%%......what is a high %. Is it higher than usual ,higher by industry norms , a higher % than other ? Is this statement FACTUAL or a WAP guess.? I know they have more horses than others ,regularly running in big races at breakneck speed ,several doing a lot of travel and contesting a good number of races per horse . Individual programs seem well managed . Then your post attracts a tag from Jack....."you are right"....."quite an amazing attrition rate ". Another negative knife goes in. Jack would like that a list be made public , but doubts it would happen !.....conspiracy ? But isn't the information freely available on the stable website.....all stable racehorses are named and progress is updated regularly. Jack suggests 'secrecy' when the stable is not only the biggest but is open to the media as well. Maybe Jack refers to horses that never make it from the breakers but go to other trainers....Ive had shares in a couple of these....rejects ! The stable obviously targets the group races , but the owners retain ultimate control hence several horses are sold at various stages.....the records of horses like Arden Rooney ,Messini etc suggest their horses are durable and last.There are dozens having long careers in Perth and South Australia as well as the main states. Turn It Up has had a brilliant career...had a low key start to racing in lesser races then was sprung into the NZ Free For All after a big handful of starts and has raced in Group races since. He's being looked after. Is he their TOP 4 yr old ? Ahead of Thefixer and Spankem on results to date ? I note the Whitelocks have retired Kayla Maree to the breeding barn after earning $200k in a brief career ,when clearly a step below the top fillies.Their top filly Princess Tiffany is continuing but such is the meticulous planning and care of the horses welfare that she was sent to Matamata for a complete health check recently. Personally I marvel at the care and attention these horses get and Im confident it contributes to their success........as to a bit of soreness among young trotters ,it happens. From personal experience I know bone chips ,slivers ,feet issues ,growing pains etc are very common and recently I had shares in two[elsewhere] which were kicked by their paddock mates and that can do damage too. Me thinks jealousy and envy is very much alive.......if things are reported in the media and the stable website ,why the need to suggest you know better ?

Disclosure is still filtering through so it seems most likely prosecutors.

Pretty sure some legal bills upto and including first appearance were north of 15K

God knows what anyone watching the lottery down there today is thinking about NZ Racing.....particularly the Aussies. Running on a bog track, the lucky ones getting to the outside fence well before the straight, winning by a dozen while the rest are strung out like Browns Cows......nothing making ground......a punters nightmare.....might as well head for the pokies, you have about as much chance of winning there......

In the space of three days last week Dexter won 15 races, he is a freak

6th highest money winning driver in the US so far this year with some big names left in his wake!

Who knows TN.... Average Intelligence Vegan Policeman ? Fat Mothers Association ??

Never had any time for Hosking,even though i lean to the right,but i have less time for Swarbick. Another poli who has never had a real job but think she knows whats right for those that have. Another dreamer.

Unfortunately most owners just grin and bear it. We know most trainers are doing okay (many overseas "holiday" trips annually attest to this) I don't begrudge them such holidays, but some seem to cry poor one week and then are on the silver bird the next. I think what the Industry needs right now is honesty starting from the top. And we all know there have been a multitude of not so truths bandied around to the extent that you really don't know what to believe or not.

Race 1...#3...Double Act Race 2...#1...Tallyho Twinkletoe Race 3...#12...Ready to Prophet Thanks for comp

I seem to recall Basil training a few out of Te Awamutu and his wife use to to ride them trackwork. From memory Basil was a scrap merchant dealer in the days of big demand from overseas.

Thats a shame,. The stable does have a high % of horses with injuries though. This year alone you have their top 2yo,top 3yo,and top 4yp pacers all having knee operations. Then you have their top 2 3yo trotters with apparent soreness issues .

R1 3 Double Act R2 13 Cool Hand Duke R3 19 Ready Set Boom Thanks Rev...

Good on you Rev. R1 Band R2 Tallyho Twinkletoe R3 Manaya

R1=5 Class clown R2=11 Tell me more R3=6 Organza Thanks

What!! Scrap the Gold card....people have been waiting 65 years to get one.

Hi BK 1. 5 Classclown 2. Going to forego this race ... don't like picking lasts 3. 6 Organza Thank you !!

Give Matt Cross the gig. Great voice young and plenty of enthusiasm.

Bring back Kevin Payne.

As an AML consultant I find it interesting that the TAB won't accept it. The AIVCOP 2013 put ot by FMA and DIA about acceptable secondary id lists "a document issued by a government agency that contains the persons name and signature,for example a Super Gold card as defined in the Social Security (SuperGold card) Regulations 2007" Definitely someone trying to make things hard at the TAB

It is amazing how the SI was ever lucky enough to attract someone like Mark. I suppose we could always try to lure that lad back from HK, who has done quite well for someone who wasn't good enough for us previously.

They could have paid their own way - and got to understand a bit about how the locals feel betrayed.

can you tell me via the mess report how stratford got the push 13000 people at their last race meeting do ellerslie get that many no but stratford is still going just as normal without a race meeting sponsors of yesteryear are putting their money into non racing a good look for thoroughbred racing to say the least

I just had a look at the final 400s from Waimate. People and cars lined up the entire length of the straight, and well past the finish post as well. And from the first race until the last race. I bet Trentham and Riccarton would love to see a crowd like that. I wonder what the official attendance and turnover was. Does anyone know if a representative from the NZRB and NZTR attended the meeting and gave a small talk thanking them for their efforts over the years and reassuring them that them falling on their swords was for the greater good of the whole industry and the whole industry would be much better off without them? I am quite serious there, does a delegation of Racings "leadership" and big picture thinkers attend "final meetings" like that just to let the locals know people are thinking of them. Was Glenda there? Does she know where Waimate is? NZ's best shot-putter does come from Timaru so I imagine she does know where Waimate is.

How exactly will the industry benefit from that? It is further from Riccarton, so probably even less Canty horses than Waimate got. Closer to Wingatui, but they didn't seem very interested in Waimate so probably not that keen on Oamaru either. Will the club bother to continue racing? And if so will all of their local sponsors want to support Oamaru? I see it even looks like they boosted the better class sprint by $4,000 this year. Bit strange making a South Canty club race in Otago when there is a perfectly good racecourse with better facilities in Timaru.

Disappointing to see a relative lack of support from trainers for the meeting, although admittedly the programming was poor. Sad to see only four horses front for the $25,000 Cup. Trainers don't seem to notice decent stakes sometimes. Good to see the horse all the way from Riverton win the Cup: well worth the five hour trip. Just imagine if there was a track in the NI that could race on a good 3 in the middle of winter; where they could run 1,200m races in a tick over 1.11. They would be racing there every week. In all seriousness, I cannot see how anyone could justify spending millions on an all weather track in the SI when we already have tracks like Waimate. It is less than three hours from Chch and about two hours from Wingatui. It seems to be ideally placed. Why not spend a few dollars developing a couple of different start points? Much more economical than spending millions on the bottomless pit of an all weather track.

And it's not really as if Waimate has been told: "shift to Oamaru or Timaru and you will experience fantastic facilities and attract much bigger crowds".

Unless clubs drop out through natural attrition or general lack of interest I tend to favour letting them continue. We can't really afford to lose enthusiastic contributors. No other clubs appear to have benefited from the demise of Westport and Nelson many years ago. Businesses in those towns don't sponsor races at Blenheim and Greymouth. I don't even really think Canterbury has benefited from the demise of the Christchurch Hunt Club. No Homeby Steeplechase any more; no Haldon Plate. I quite like some of the traditional races. I think we tend to under-value their worth in NZ. We don't have the respect for tradition that Australia has. It may be a pathetic shadow of its former self, but at least the Auckland RC has retained the Cornwall this weekend. It will probably still give the winning owner a bit of a thrill.

The Shortest Day Comp Starts here. $ 88 New world Xmas card or similar to the winners TAB a/c. Race 1. tomorrow M4 Wanganui R 1. Pick the winner ( Number first and Name of Horse) ( 10 points)Winner CALL ME JACK) Race 2 tomorrow M4 Wanganui R 2 Pick the LAST horse to finish ( Number first and Name of Horse) ( 5 points ) ( REV oh LUTION)) Race 3 Saturday Ipswich R 9 Pick the winner ( Number first and Name of Horse) ( 25 points) NO POINT SCORERS from the 14 entrants today, that I can see.( PM me if I haven't noted your selection). R9. Ipswich final Leg worth 25 Points Racenet has full fields and form: https://www.racenet.com.au/racing-form-guide/ipswich-20190615/tab-gai-waterhouse-classic-race-9 All in: No scratching replacements: Joint winners, if any, share $200 Prize. Organza (6) chosen by 6 entrants 3 FF (Chestnut, Charlie, Ohaka, Peg, Mr Zm, Ar Jay) Ready to Profit (12) chosen by 1 entrant 5.5 FF ( Cubes) Manaya ( 4 ) " " 2 entrants 4.4 FF (Ted , Tarantula) Indecision ( 3 ) 31FF ( Catalano) Pedrena ( 2 ) 34FF (Hacko ) Pecans ( 12 ) 10FF ( Breeze ) Ready Set Boom (19 e ) 677 FF (Ponderosa Paul) Good Luck to you all. (PM me if I have missed anything).Or post here. My xcell skills are comparable to my Patio Building ability. Big betting pools at Ipswich on Saturday. R 9 should have decent comingled Quinella Trifecta pools.