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Perhaps Hesi is Jami-Lee Ross. Same pattern forming.

The best harness shows coincide with Michael's absense.

BELOW IS A QUOTE FROM THE NZR WEBSITE. "There will be no final race at Waipukurau on Thursday 25 October. A race will be divided depending on nominations received." Don't think they've worded it very well have they..... a race meeting no matter how small or big will have a final race.

I have just received a PM about moi being mentioned on Channel 2. Look i know quite a few of them struggled with School Certificate but just to help you out once and for all Newmarket is not and never has been Scoobie. Dont know the guy and certainly have never met him.This despite many contributors saying so on the The Yawn. It would seem that Doug and his lapdog Hesi have major issues with here and that's for them to get over. Wanking on about how bad this site is etc achieves nothing IMHO. In conclusion leave me out of all your shit and that includes the harness simpleton Flagship. If their Website is so good why do Hesi and others openly admit to coming to view the content on here.

Haunted not good enough. The Weir runner got plunged late which wasn’t a good sign. I like TheCliffsOfMoher in the CC. I thought his run in the Caulfield Stakes was huge and as long as he handles the quick back up he’ll be hard to beat. Yucatan was unbelievable in the Herbert Power and has to be a massive chance to give Lloyd another one. Good luck with Boxerchocolates.

Mick may have a lot of knowledge but he has always been a name dropper.This is only marginally worse than his consistent sucking up to a certain stable which sadly another commentator is also guilty of! Mick and co there are other trainers out there give them the same amount of coverage..

BEST SOLUTION (Saeed Bin Suroor/Pat Cosgrave) The first of the foreign runners has won four of his six starts this season with the Caulfield Stakes winning trainer/jockey combination Saeed Bin Suroor and Pat Cosgrave. His past three starts have returned victories in the Group II Princess Of Wales Stakes (2414m) at Newmarket, Group I Grosser Preis Von Berlin (2414m) at Hoppegarten and the Group I Preis Von Baden (2000m) at Baden-Baden in Germany last month. A proven weight-carrier in good form and Bin Suroor won the Caulfield Cup in 2008 with All The Good. WINNING CHANCE - 8%, ODDS - $17 THE CLIFFSOFMOHER (Aidan O'Brien/Hugh Bowman) Lightly-raced international under the care of Irish master trainer Aidan O’Brien and ridden by Australia’s world champion big race rider. The Cliffsofmoher had six European starts this season prior to travelling to Australia, winning one at Group II level and finishing around the mark in high class Group I weight-for-age races, the Prince Of Wales Stakes and Eclipse Stakes. The son of Galileo made a strong impression in his Australian debut last Saturday reeling off the fastest last 600, 400 and 200m splits in the Caulfield Stakes, the Caulfield Cup lead-up race which has produced eight of the past 30 winners. Most importantly, The Cliffsofmoher performed well off a quick back-up during the Royal Ascot carnival in June. WINNING CHANCE - 15%, ODDS - $7 CHESTNUT COAT (Yoshito Yahagi/Yuga Kawada) The first of the Japanese raiders has had five starts this year for a return of two all-weather track wins, a second placing in the Group II Nikkei Sho (2500m) and a fifth in the Group I Tenno Sho Spring (3200m) two starts back behind Rainbow Line and Japan Cup winner Cheval Grand. Japanese gallopers are widely regarded as the some of the classiest and toughest horses on the planet and Admire Rakti gave the Asian nation its first Caulfield Cup win in 2014. Looks best suited in the Melbourne Cup next but rule him out at your peril. WINNING CHANCE - 6%, ODDS - $18 JON SNOW (Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman/Damian Lane) As a three-year-old he won the Australian Derby and finished third in the New Zealand Derby. Ran ninth in the Caulfield Cup and then was found to be suffering a leg injury in the lead-up to the Melbourne Cup and spent 11 months on the sidelines. Returned with an encouraging fourth in the Group I Tarzino Trophy (1400m) at Hastings in September before crossing the ditch and was third in the Group I Makybe Diva Stakes (1600m) then raced like he was looking for 2400m when fourth in the Group I Turnbull Stakes behind Winx. This trip is more to his liking and the Turnbull Stakes has been the winning lead-up race for the Caulfield Cup winner in five of the past nine years. WINNING CHANCE - 1%, ODDS - $41 SOUND CHECK (Michael Moroney/Jordan Childs) Here’s a foreigner that’s been purchased by Australian and New Zealand interests for the Cups and will have his first start on Saturday under the care of Flemington-based trainer Mike Moroney. This former German galloper has an impressive winning strike rate of seven wins from 16 starts and in his last European outing he was beaten a short neck under weight-for-age conditions by Best Solution in the Group I Grosser Preis Von Berlin (2414m) at Hoppegarten. Gets 2kg off that galloper here so if you like Best Solution, you have to give Sound Check a chance but his best form does indicate the Melbourne Cup is his better target. WINNING CHANCE – 6%, ODDS - $23 ACE HIGH (David Payne/Damien Oliver) He’s arguably the best-credentialled local Derby winner to contest the Caulfield Cup for quite a few years. During his three-year-old season he won the Victoria Derby and trained on in the autumn to go down in an agonising photo finish for his connections in the Australian Derby. Back as a four-year-old, he was good when second to Unforgotten in the Group II Chelmsford Stakes and last start was a dominant winner of the Group II Hill Stakes when stepping up to 2000m. He’s a tough on-pace staying type that loves a fight and 2400m suits. He deserves to be respected. WINNING CHANCE - 8%, ODDS - $11 THE TAJ MAHAL (Liam Howley/James McDonald) He arrived in Australia in the spring last year and won the Sandown Classic. He didn’t fire in his sole autumn run in the Group I Australian Cup then failed to create an impression in his first two runs of the current campaign before turning his form around in the Group III JRA Cup (2040m) three weeks ago at Moonee Valley, scrambling home in a quality handicap. Since 1988, the JRA Cup hasn’t produced a Caulfield Cup winner and I’m happy to say that won’t be the case again in 2018. WINNING CHANCE - 1%, ODDS - $18 DURETTO (Andrew Balding/Dwayne Dunn) Going through his European form, it would indicate his best chance of going home with a Cup will come at Flemington on the first Tuesday in November. In saying that he was only beaten three-quarters of a length by Best Solution two starts back in the Group II Princess Of Wales Stakes (2414m) at Newmarket at weight-for-age and meets that galloper 3kg better at the weights this time. This is a seven-year-old that has staying form behind some of Europe’s best and if this developed into a brutal race, he’s the sort that would relish it. WINNING CHANCE - 3%, ODDS - $23 RED VERDON (Ed Dunlop/Zac Purton) This is an interesting international runner. His trainer Ed Dunlop has had success in Australia via the deeds of the popular Red Cadeaux in recent years and he’ll be ridden by Australia’s champion Hong Kong-based jockey Zac Purton who won the race four years ago aboard Admire Rakti. Red Verdon races in the colours made famous in Australia by Red Cadeaux and comes here with 2400m form, including second placings in recent starts in the Group II Hardwick Stakes and Group II Glorious Stakes. In the Hardwick he beat home The Cliffsofmoher carrying the same weight of 57.5kg and this time he’s 2.5kg better off against that horse so if you like The Cliffsofmoher, you should respect Red Vernon. WINNING CHANCE - 9%, ODDS - $21 VENGEUR MASQUE (Michael Moroney/Patrick Moloney) Victories in average editions of the Group III Geelong Cup and VRC Queen Elizabeth Stakes are how he’s found his way into the race but his form this season doesn’t inspire confidence about his chances. His best effort this prep came first-up when behind the placegetters in the Listed Heatherlie Handicap (1700m) but his two subsequent runs have seen him finish 10th in the Group III Naturalism Stakes and beaten more than five lengths by Avilius in the Bart Cummings. He does have a good 2400m record but at this level I expect him to struggle. WINNING CHANCE - 0%, ODDS - $101 VENTURA STORM (David & B Hayes & T Dabernig/Regan Bayliss) He was right in the market when finished midfield in the Caulfield Cup last year off a second behind Winx in the Turnbull Stakes. This year he’s again performed well in the Turnbull, fourth in the race and only beaten 1-3/4 lengths by Winx, an improvement of 4-3/4 lengths compared with 2017 but that doesn’t tell the full story, obviously. He tends to mix his form and the formguide indicates he isn’t too fussed on racing at Caulfield with his best result being a two-length defeat in the Listed Heatherlie Handicap three runs ago and you know what I think of the chances of Vengeur Masque, which beat him home in that. Making up the numbers. WINNING CHANCE - 0%, ODDS - $34 MIGHTY BOSS (Mick Price/Tim Clark) What relevance does a Caulfield Guineas win at 1600m have for a Caulfield Cup? Obviously, the Racing Victoria handicapper gives it more importance than I think it deserves or this Mick Price-trained horse wouldn’t be in the race. He’s won a Sale 2YO maiden and last year’s Caulfield Guineas at $101. Since then he hasn’t finished better than sixth in seven starts and his best effort was a 2-1/4 length defeat in the Group III Naturalism Stakes. The best thing going for him here is he comes out of the best form race in recent years – the Turnbull Stakes. His form says he’s making up the numbers but he has got history of causing a shock result. WINNING CHANCE - 1%, ODDS - $101 HOMESMAN (Liam Howley/Ben Melham) Another of the Lloyd Williams army. I think it’s fair to question his credentials at 2400m coming into this. When trained in Europe his best form was at 1600 to 2000m and his last two starts indicate that’s still the case. Won the Group I Underwood Stakes two runs ago but if it was another stride he runs second then last Saturday in the Caulfield Stakes, he led up but it was all too much late, weakening out of the race, only beating four runners home. Better suited under handicap conditions but expecting the 2400m to find him out. WINNING CHANCE - 2%, ODDS - $13 KINGS WILL DREAM (Darren Weir/Craig Williams) This is one of the best Australian-trained chances in the race. He booked his place in the field in March when thumping the field in the Mornington Cup, a race that carried Caulfield Cup ballot exemption. Since returning this preparation he’s only enhanced his Caulfield Cup prospects with fast-finishing fourth, third and second placings in the Group II PB Lawrence Stakes (1400m), Group I Memsie Stakes (1400m) and Group I Makybe Diva Stakes (1600m). Last time out he was again far from disgraced, ridden closer to the speed before finishing fourth in the Group I Turnbull Stakes (2000m). Been set for this all campaign, has form in the right races, no weight and a top trainer and jockey combination – there’s a lot to like about him. WINNING CHANCE - 11%, ODDS - $5.50 SOLE IMPACT (Hirofumi Toda/Ryusei Sakai (a)) The second of the Japanese raiders, he returned his only placing in five starts this year when third behind 2015 Melbourne Cup favourite and top stayer Fame Game in the Group III Diamond Stakes (3400m). He was fifth in his last outing, beaten 1-1/2 lengths in the Group II Meguro Kinen (2500m). He’s only won four of 37 starts but his record indicates he’s most effective at this trip where his five starts have yielded a win and three placings. The jockey choice is an interesting one. Ryusei Sakai is a Japanese apprentice that’s been plying his trade in South Australia for much of this year. This season he’s ridden four winners from 78 rides – that doesn’t have the feel of a ‘Caulfield Cup-winning jockey’. WINNING CHANCE - 2%, ODDS - $51 GALLIC CHIEFTAIN (Darren Weir/Dean Yendall) The last horse into the field but not the worst on form and he is trained by Darren Weir. Kicked off his campaign this spring finishing down the track with a big weight in a 1600m handicap before making good improvement second-up, finishing a close second behind The Taj Mahal in the Group III JRA Cup (2040m) at Moonee Valley. Last Saturday he ground home to grab a well-beaten fourth in the Group II Herbert Power Stakes behind the controversial Caulfield Cup non-acceptor Yucatan. Drops 3.5kg into this and has good 2400m figures but place prospects appear the brightest. WINNING CHANCE - 1%, ODDS - $67 NIGHT'S WATCH (Darren Weir/Ben Allen (a)) Another member of Darren Weir’s team that booked his place in the race when winning a Caulfield Cup ballot exemption race – the Group III Naturalism Stakes. This five-year-old former Kiwi is one of the leading Australian-trained hopes in the race, working his way impressively through the grades this preparation. Wasn’t suited under the weight-for-age conditions last Saturday but ran well for sixth in the Caulfield Stakes and he’s much better suited at the weights here, dropping to 52kg meeting a horse like The Cliffsofmoher 4.5kg better. It won’t be a shock if this son of Redwood is in the finish. WINNING CHANCE - 6%, ODDS - $15 YOUNGSTAR (Chris Waller/Kerrin McEvoy) This is the horse the bookies think is the hardest to beat. The Queensland Oaks winner from last season made her Caulfield Cup statement when charging home to beat all but Winx in the Turnbull Stakes (2000m) in her last start. Trained by Australia’s master big race trainer Chris Waller and ridden by proven big race jockey Kerrin McEvoy. This whole campaign has been about the Caulfield Cup and she’s had a faultless build-up, improving with every run and she’s going to be better suited at 2400m. This is a live chance that will be hard to beat with even luck. WINNING CHANCE - 16%, ODDS - $6 PATRICK ERIN (Chris Waller/Corey Brown) Former Kiwi stayer that showed what he is capable of when winning the Group I The Metropolitan at Randwick last start. It’s fair to say, like the other emergency, he’s more worthy of a place in the race than some of the other Australian runners but they’ve had 12 months to get him there but came up just short at the weights. If he gets a run, he will love the trip, he’s in form but it’s fair to question if he had the class to win a Caulfield Cup. Not without a place chance though. WINNING CHANCE - 1%, ODDS - $51 JAAMEH (David & B Hayes & T Dabernig/Cory Parish) This import has the Caulfield Cup-winning trainer/jockey combination from last year on his side. His form reads OK too, now he just needs a couple of scratchings to get a run. If he does, you could do sillier things with your money. He’s won three of his six Australian starts and last time out he made the highly-regarded Avilius earn it in the Bart Cummings. Avilius was the Caulfield Cup favourite until he won that race and the stable announced they’d bypass the Caulfield Cup. Jaameh drops to 50kg if he gets a run and he’ll have a lightweight chance. WINNING CHANCE - 3%, ODDS - $34 ANALYSIS: Gun mare YOUNGSTAR has a great chance of giving Chris Waller his first success in the Caulfield Cup on Saturday. From a form perspective she ticks all the right boxes and has a luxury weight. THE CLIFFSOFMOHER made a strong impression on Aussie punters when getting home strongly late in last week’s Caulfield Stakes. If he can handle the seven-day back-up, he has genuine winning claims. KINGS WILL DREAM, like Youngstar, has had the perfect build-up for this, running well in all the right form races. RED VERDON is a good value chance. He has similar European form credentials to The Cliffsofmoher with a trainer and jockey proven on Australia’s biggest racing stages.

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A beauty contest with no bikini or evening gown section. No longer about good looks but good brains. wtf!

The 2400m start at Caulfield with a capacity field is no place for jockeys who have little experience at it. Chances can be rooted entering the first turn, getting interfered with, buffeted, knocked, squeezed etc. it’s the most high pressure staying race. The jockey can make “so” much difference. The two best Melb jockeys are Damien Lane and Damien Oliver. If their mounts are good enough on the day, you can bet they will be given every chance. But in a race like this year’s CC, there are no rules, no pre-race plans and lots of pressure. It’s going to be a beauty. If something wins it with a come from behind sprint from the turn, I’m picking light weights Youngstar and Nights Watch. If it’s won from near the leaders then Cliffs of Moher and Homesman will be hard to run down. Good luck - you’ll need it in this race fore sure!!

So just clarifying, the complaint is the club doesn't want to take part in the event which provides promotion, but expects to receive promotion anyway? Sounds like the Club needs to start marketing their own events in the local papers and radio stations.

He is no more JLR than i am scoobie Ted. Some of those contributors are that thick they cant work out how i posted original post above on this and Harness forum within a minute- said only management could do it that quickly. Guess what its easy if you learn this thing called " Cut and Paste" As i said elsewhere , leave me out of your shit Hesi ,Newmarket HunterthePunter and Flagship Uberalles. If you want to put some money up and have a large bet about my identity and that Newmarket RC version is not Scoobie, PM me for a meeting but bring the cash as you will lose. Any takers who cant post on here anymore can go through those dual posters who can Now watch this as it will be posted on Harness forum in a minute

The show lost a lot of its lustre when the Whale left. Im hearing he was sick of you know who. The good news is that hes now trying to be an expert on TB's so it may all end well after all , our gain their loss

The same amount of coverage haha really? The same amount??But the other trainers out there don't have the same volume and class of cattle. Nowhere near it. The blue army dominate harness racing so is it not "fair" that they get a decent amount of coverage? Jesus they are likely to have almost a third of the runners starting in the cup this year. Plus their intermediate grade and juvenile runners will be fair flying. It is now common place where the stable win multiple races on the big race days. They clean up the majority of age group racing for pacers. I would rather hear about the news from the All Stars camp and have Michael relaying his phone calls to Purdon etc like he does on the box seat, than get the same amount of news from the nobodys and also rans. Variety is nice though, good interesting piece on the Barron bros a while back on the box seat.

Verry Ellegant is in the Ethereal on Saturday, currently $2.40 favourite. Amphitrite went on from beating her in the Edward Manifold to win the Thousand Guineas.

Another talking horse. A smart one at that too.

Not normally the way you express the close relation tie up. It universally means that through the dam there is a close relationship, not an inbreed to the stallion.

But thats why you choose to be part of it or not I'd have thought? I just don't buy into $10 to go to the races being termed fleecing people when you see the garbage that people pay money for these days. Why is paying $10 any different to being charged to a go to a club rugby or NPC game, you do know that you don't have to have a bet at the races just like you don't have to at the footy.

Minor profit Boxerchocolates CBT , I sometimes think I cost Tab more in electricity to process my bets than I ever win, just constantly recycling money ew punters like me. Back up should be good COM , he went better second race Royal Ascot this year although he was down in class from first day.

Oh Dear!

I read David Hayes comments on VS...trained it differently this year and has had an operation in between. Stable has to be respected in these big races...remember Boom Time last year.....

It's going to be four cracking weeks OM , I like the Sandown finish to carnival as well, good variety of races that meeting. The only thing with the write up its gives one of my two ew picks in VS a 0 per cent chance, that's harsh but Mighty Boss 1 per cent. MB wins iam spelling on the punt till end year. It's no chance , lovely looking horse , turned the heads around the pre parade ring at Turnball other week especially the kids , but Usain Bolts got more chance getting a contract from Jose playing up front for rabble in red at next transfer window than that horse winning Saturday.

The exuberance of youth, he's riding well , he's class but might want to just take a little out of Ryan Moores book and keep a bit to himself. Mind you Moore maybe too much like Lester Piggott but Lester has a cutting wit at times , Moore dour but does it everywhere straight off the plane.Don't want to knock J Mac because he's got it all before him if he plays it right the world's his lobster as Del Boy would say. Yucatan mind blowing but seen it before , one bird don't make a summer. Henry Cecil had horse who overtook the cars driving past the gallops at Newmarket according to seasoned work watchers , called Killer Instinct, he was the ultimate talking horse , thats where he's ability stayed on the Limekilns. Yucatan got a lot of form to turn around on UK and Irish form against some of these internationals , Muntahaa trained by what must be second best trainer in world John Gosden is one of them. ( after Aidan who's the best according to J Macc).

There is a fee for clubs who enter the ISF franchise which is a contribution towards the marketing costs for the national festival. The gate charges are normally $10-15 and are a bargain as the club and The Races team put on free kids entertainment, live music, betting promotions with international travel as prizes, on-track games like tug of war, non-wagering competitions, food vendors, face painting, bouncy castles, petting zoos amongst a whole lot of other activities. The kicker is that under 18's enter free. ISF is designed to welcome families and non-racing regulars to the sport one or 2 days a year. It is a summer entertainment option over the holiday period which fills racecourses with over 64,000 guests a year and ONE MILLION customers since it began 13 years ago. Name another initiative other than Christmas at the Races that seeks to bring kiwis to the races as successfully? I'll wait.

I said something vaguely similar to that to someone at Ruakaka recently. I told them to put their horse on Kenny Rae's truck as he was heading down to Ashburton - but just don't bring the useless bastard home.

J Mac makes a big call about Yucatan.... https://www.racenet.com.au/news/james-mcdonald-makes-big-statement-about-2018-melbourne-cup-favourite-20181017

Jesus, Ponderosa... you gave me a huge fright. I saw my brother's name in the Race Cafe postings and thought it was a Vale. Had he died ? I had just been on the phone to Lee last night giving him the usual brotherly advise. which was : Otaki Sunday 21 October 2018 a. Stick a nasal strip on One Prize No Goal, and teach the horse Te Rio..tell him about an Inter island Ferry called Aratiki that takes horses to Kelvin Tyler and Michael Pittman. b .Claim on Stradivarius at Otaki. from barrier 8 at 1600m .A wonderfully honest racing dynamo. c .Sorock . just line him up:: He wili get to open class . Lee is relocated and very happy.And very alive. Thank you Chris Wood for your lovely reply.

There are some idiots on here...nobody asked for percentages, she has proved the heritage exists. Trump lying about his offer and trying to weasel out of it should tell you all you need to know. https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/10/15/yes-elizabeth-warren-has-native-ancestry-no-that-wont-stop-trumps-racist-attacks/?utm_term=.41ccb785e039

Can we agree we we need to attract young people to the sport. How else do we increase punting revenue and owners numbers. This has been the key to the Australians relative success. The other thing Australia ha,d was a supportive government which for once we also have. This growth sure isn't going to come from the old curmudgeons who would rather see the industry die than merge with another club. To attract the next generation we need a product that is on a different level to what the old curmudgeons are used to. I'm so sick of the whining and negativity these relics of the industry spout as they try to drag the industry back to the glory days of the 50's which is just an unobtainable dream. If your not part of the future, then do the rest of us a favour and join a bowls club so you can destroy that industry rather than this one.

One thing frustrating(bloody frustrating!) to us at Reefton is this Summer Festival of Racing. To go into the promotion you have to charge to get in(which we refuse to do). So everyone else around the Christmas circuit gallops and trots gets radio, newspaper and TAB poster advertising and our meeting is not mentioned. Bloody pain in the a#*e! We pay the same levies and fees as everyone else but because we will not fleece the poor bloke bringing the wife and kids to the races once a year....