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  1. 7 points
    mmmyb

    Wheelchair Norm WOW!!!

    Start 196 today...Track record ... win number 97... over 5 years old. What a beauty!!!
  2. 4 points
    Sports is where the growth opportunity is, that’s just commercial reality. Racing ( well two of the codes ) can’t really point the finger when their own product is flat lining. If we were brutally honest we’d lay the blame at the feet of the code administrators and clubs because they’re guilty of doing nothing useful or constructive to initiate change and produce a better product. It’s time we stopped behaving in an entitled manner, stop making out we’re the victims, stop blaming others, and sort our own mess out.
  3. 3 points
    dkc

    Open Class Races

    Only when the money was enough for them to venture down. And that is my point. It is killing the group racing. These races are now being propped up by the rest and this didn't used to be the case.
  4. 3 points
    Eclipsed

    NZRB statement of intent released

    Have skim read this Statement of Intent just now..... For the 1st time ever, the word debt and debt repayment is mentioned. Have read many NZRB annual reports,6 monthly reports et al and stand to be corrected, however have never previously seen the subject of debt and debt repayment raised by the NZRB. On page 22 leveraging the balance sheet was touched on - no mention of how much and at what cost. The ASB quoted as being the providers of the revolving funding source. On page 28 there’s a $22 million jump in other financial liabilities that gets repaid two years down the track so am assuming that this is the ASB. All of this debt raising predicated on strategies, including the Racefields legislation and new FOB platform, delivering returns that will see distributions to the codes lift from $146m to $202m over the 4 year period to 2021. Hanson, Brown and Bayliss all talked the talk and failed to deliver. Allen is walking the walk into equine mortality.... Adoption of an outsider’s recommendations cannot happen soon enough for mine.
  5. 3 points
    tripple alliance

    Jacinda Ardern

    Trump is positioning himself to make huge gains from China , they won't like it but because China is winning big time under the current deals , they have the most to loose and both party's know this . Once he has fixed the EU , Mexico and Canadian problems his position will be strengthened on trade issues , these other country's will support him .
  6. 2 points
    La Zip

    NZRB statement of intent released

    What I’m trying to say is Purcell was ineffective and just a mouthpiece and the new bloke will be just as ineffective as he is also just a mouthpiece and they can churn out as much spin as they like, but the NZRB & NZTR need complete root & branch reform if this industry is to survive. No credibility anywhere... b oth outfits are dysfunctional. The people charged with appointing the key people is where the problem lies...because they keep getting it wrong.
  7. 2 points
    Leggy

    NZRB statement of intent released

    Zippo, you make a good point, but I think you are still mixing up the 2011 Purcell report and projections of the NZTR board with the likes of this thread's 2018 and John Allen's previous SOIs which are from the NZRB board. Different machines, though both about equally useless.
  8. 2 points
    Thejanitor

    Open Class Races

    Don't get the AS's? What the hell are you on about? I recall a number of wins by All Stars horses in Southland last season.
  9. 2 points
    dkc

    Open Class Races

    I don't think either will be 3yo of the year. Chase Auckland will probably take that title. Over the last 3 year years you have come up with one example except for the trotters (and they now have there eyes onthis money too). You sound like you are the AS number one fan or marketing manager. All I am doing is give my personal view to what the end result of this total domination is and it's not good. It's a problem for the TAB ie lack of turnover on these races. Which means its a problem for harness racing in general. Look at Southern harness. It's bucking the trend. 3 things standout, they don't have group racing. Their field sizeis better than the average and they don't get the AS's Putting our head in the sand is not an option IMHO
  10. 1 point
    scooby3051

    $1,000,000 Race for Sydney.

    World’s first $1 million greyhound race announced for Sydney Wentworth Park will host the world's richest greyhound race in October. A newly created greyhound race worth $1.2 million, making it the richest race in the world, will be run at WentworthPark on October 20. The GRNSW and Ladbrokes Million Dollar Chase (520m) eclipses Victoria’s $630,000 Melbourne Cup (515m) which is run at Sandown on November 23. The Million Dollar Chase series will start in September, consisting of 11 NSW-based regional races, for dogs domiciled in districts across NSW, plus another 14 metropolitan qualifiers, open to greyhounds throughout Australia. Sixty four dogs from the regional and metropolitan qualifiers will compete in eight semi finals on October 13 with the final run a week later. The series will offer $1.7 million in prizemoney with the final worth $1.2 million, carrying a $1 million purse for the winner. More information will come to hand in the coming hours.
  11. 1 point
    Iraklis

    Lazzie, check it out....

    From US Trotting site....nothing but great things to say bout The Champ, but then we all knew he was special didn't we Cheers Iraklis Lazarus N looks to supplement to Dan Patch at Hoosier Monday, July 30, 2018 - by Ken Weingartner, USTA Media Relations Manager Hightstown, NJ --- After making his U.S. debut with a 1:48.3 qualifying mile Saturday (July 28) at The Meadowlands, the next time New Zealand-bred pacer Lazarus emerges will be for real. If all goes as planned, Lazarus will be supplemented to the $300,000 Dan Patch on Aug. 10 at Hoosier Park for his first official race in North America. The event is for older pacers and restricted to the 10 highest lifetime money-earners that enter. The fee to supplement Lazarus, who earned the U.S. equivalent of $2.66 million during his storied career Down Under, would be $25,000. Jimmy Takter, who trains Lazarus for owner Taylor Made Stallions, said it would have been nice to race the 6-year-old pacer on Hambletonian Day this Saturday at the Meadowlands, but the Dan Patch was a better fit in the horse’s schedule. In addition, the winner of the Dan Patch receives an automatic nomination to the Hoosier Park Pacing Derby on Sept. 21. USTA/Ken Weingartner photo If all goes as planned, Lazarus will be supplemented to the $300,000 Dan Patch on Aug. 10 at Hoosier Park for his first official race in North America. Furthermore, in the past three weeks Lazarus trained in 1:52.2 at Takter’s farm, 1:51.2 at the Meadowlands, and then qualified in 1:48.3. “Three weeks in a row he’s gone up, now it gives me two weeks,” Takter said. “I think (the Dan Patch) is a good spot for him. If he wins that one, he could race in the (Hoosier Park Pacing Derby). And Hoosier is a good track. It’s a fast track too.” Lazarus arrived at Takter’s farm in late May following his purchase by Taylor Made Stallions. During his career Down Under, Lazarus won 35 of 45 races, including two editions of the prestigious New Zealand Cup and 15 Group One events overall, and finished off the board only once. He earned NZ$3.8 million. On Saturday, the stallion capped his 1:48.3 mile with a :25.3 final quarter. His time was only three-fifths of a second off Pure Country’s 1:48 record for a qualifier. Driver Yannick Gingras told DRF’s Derick Giwner, “He couldn’t have done it any easier.” Later, Takter concurred. “It wasn’t like Yannick was hard on him,” Takter said. “He’s a heck of a horse.” Lazarus is a son of Hall of Famer Bettor's Delight out of Bethany, who was sired by top Down Under stallion Christian Cullen. It did not take long for Takter to determine Lazarus was worthy of his reputation. “I could feel pretty early that he was a little special,” Takter said. “You could feel it. This is not just a horse. We knew that, but you never know. He came from a totally different continent. Everything is different. I’ve never been in New Zealand or Australia, but everything is so different compared to our racing. You never know how they’re going to do. “But a lot of these horses that have come from Down Under have done well. And he was one of the best they ever had down there.” Takter was surprised by how quickly Lazarus acclimated to life in the States and proved to be ready for action. Takter decided it was time to start the horse’s North American campaign sooner than later. “He feels so good,” Takter said. “I’m scared to over-train an older horse. Too much training makes them a little bored at it. Especially the training I do, it’s a little boring. It’s like a job.” As much as Takter appreciates Lazarus’ talent, he is equally impressed with his disposition. “I like when you get those nice Bettor's Delights,” Takter said. “They’re very laid back and sweet, not a mean streak in them. They are just sweethearts. “He’s such a laidback horse. He’s not a horse that does anything flashy when he’s training, he just goes through the motions. He takes care of himself, he’s a smart colt. But when you ask him, he’s serious. Very serious.” Lazarus’ schedule could include the Canadian Pacing Derby (eliminations Aug. 25; final Sept. 1 at Woodbine Mohawk Park), Hoosier Park Pacing Derby, Allerage Farms Open Pace (Oct. 6 at Red Mile) and the Breeders Crown (eliminations Oct. 20; final Oct. 27 at The Downs at Mohegan Sun Pocono). “I’m excited by it,” Takter said. “We’ll play it by ear. We’re going to play it a little as it goes. It might work out pretty good.”
  12. 1 point
    Ohokaman

    Dark Horse - The story of Dream Alliance

    For some bloody reason this great story is on Maori TV tonight. Worth a watch.
  13. 1 point
    La Zip

    Saundry on AW tracks

    What happens Peter is, over a short period of time a pool of horses builds that accepts the AW tracks and race accordingly......look, when you get a race at Geelong especially and the fav is say 5-4 and the next in betting is 4-1 and it happens, often......you will find generally that the short priced fav has won or run well on that surface.....thus, you can back with confidence that fav and you will find mostly they run to expectations......punters will follow AW form, and Geelong is a different surface to what they put in at Pakenham. You need to be careful with that. Sunshine Coast is also different, but using the rule of thumb, never back a horse first up on the AW track. wait and watch, the tracks have been the salvation of racing in UK, the staff lay offs for their winter break have almost ceased, owners and trainers can still maintain an income stream and the punter get's something to bet on...... Let's see what transpires, but at least one track at Cambridge should be a priority, Riccarton seems to have no trouble running their winter programs, either their surface is superior to anywhere else in NZ or their curator far better at his craft....... IMO of course.
  14. 1 point
    La Zip

    NZRB statement of intent released

    Let's be honest, c'mon, lets.......it's worth saving our racing industry isn't it? If the consensus after digesting Mr Messara's report is not favourable, what next? there needs to be a plan B.....or as is the case in NZ, Oh well that's that, ........love to hear plan B, someone, somewhere, please, no use crying after the fact, some of Messara's recommendations may be accepted and implemented, some may not, but you have to have faith in HQ and to be frank, the HQ crew are beyond it. It's not their fault in many cases, the Government minister for racing [previous] should be held to account, like here in Australia following the pink bats fiasco and the school halls where combined many billions of dollars were wasted, it cost the Government office, so accountability is now on radar.......do you think that behind closed doors the powers that be are discussing Plan B, should it be needed.......good governance would incorporate that, dialogue and proactivity. Let's wish ourselves luck, we are going to need it.
  15. 1 point
    Lee270744

    Open Class Races

    Here are some stats. 181 individual drivers won between 1-232 races. All-Stars won 122 races.' Mark, Nat, and Tim (he drives a few outsiders) won 126 races. Top 11 drivers won 1022 races between them not a lot of them won on All-Stars horses. From memory, there are about 373 licensed trainers.
  16. 1 point
    Newmarket RC

    Open Class Races

    A Bettor Act?? Methinks dkc protests to much. His arguments are not very coherent and might be the result of too many Swedes or Oysters
  17. 1 point
    Just quoting my usual sources. I’d imagine just the FO betting, maybe tote. I can’t see how they’ll outsource media but it’s possible, then you’ve got the very tricky services to racing clubs, down to the terminal operators.....can’t see how they’re going to outsource shipping terminal operators from Hawke’s Bay to Taranaki but that’s kinda how it works now. Imagine if they go the whole way and outsource everything ( leaving the NZRB as a simple clearing house ) including dates ( one of their current critical roles ) and the Australians decide “oh fuck NZ, let’s schedule Toowoomba or Gundagai as first cab off the rank Wednesday and put that NZ Everglades swamp Racing where it belongs, at the back of the queue.” I’m using an extreme example there of course. Anyway they tell me it’s 96 pages with a 6 page summary so there’s obviously a lot of something in there to digest. It'll be leaked to me soon, I’ll publish the meaty bits. FYI Leggy the increased NZRB distributions of the last 18 months came as a result of revaluing assets and borrowing against them, to the tune of 15 million last year. To reduce that to layman’s vernacular we’re living beyond our means, accruing debt, and passing our excesses onto the next generation. Good luck with that as a strategy.
  18. 1 point
    Charlie Bukowski

    Saundry on AW tracks

    As an aside , hasn't Doomben done an amazing job, racing practically every Saturday after the Eagle Farm debacle. I know they have lost a couple of meetings , was there last Oct when a meeting was canned after 3 races or so , and it had just never stopped raining all day. I can't for the life of me understand why Ellerslie , during it's "closed season" will spend $6 million on new tie up stalls and what was it on their track - 300-600k ? Isn't this arse about face for starters. For the Industry to go forward , your #1 Club has to have the #1 Track in the country. Remembering the fish rots first from the head down .... Ellerslie should at the least be able to and more significantly , race at least EVERY 2 weeks - all year round. Cheers
  19. 1 point
    Red Rum

    Glorious Goodwood

    Looks like GG on trackside 2 tonight , excellent stuff trackside. 9s FF Idaho in Cup if favorite runs flat might have a squeak. Fav had small scare after Ascot so for me worth a throw at stumps old Idaho. 5th in last year's Japan Cup so no slouch.
  20. 1 point
    Red Rum

    Glorious Goodwood

    On the money there SP, 6 furlongs that's it tank empty. She went on to finish 2nd in the next year's July Cup to Habibti . Day after the Stewards i persuaded my nan to let me roll up my winnings on Wiki Wiki Wheels , with his brother Miki Miki Motor my all time favorite racehorse names .It won and I was hooked and forever in love with Goodwood. Soba' s trainer David Chapman and jockey Dandy Nicholls both sadly passed on, the old march of time .Chapman was a master of beating the handicapper with the sprinters, Chaplins Club in the 80s won 9 races in season twice (when uk flat season ran March to Nov) including an unreal 7 wins in 19 days one year. He also won 9 in a year with Glencroft , the horse had been tubed so bit disconcerting seeing him walk round paddock. Basically Chapman got hold big players cheap cast offs and problems and worked the oracle. A true punters friend. Right going to nab telly before family watch build a house show and relive Soba 1982 on you tube. Good days.
  21. 1 point
    john legend

    the great chase/yawn

    may need to explain ; the field of 8 dogs in the chase were allocated draws 1 to 8 as per normal but in this strange race 1 raced 2 , 3 raced 4 etc. so ineffect there were 4 individual 2 dog races where time meant placings. with conditions changing with rain this was a bizarre event held in Whanganui on last friday night. Only good thing from greyhound owners viewpoint there was 60000.00 dollars to win and some donation to charity which noone seems too clear about. !
  22. 1 point
    La Zip

    NZRB statement of intent released

    Or the year before, or the year before that Hedley.
  23. 1 point
    100 1

    Trump written off

    Directed Energy Weapons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slg8p0zWJa8&app=desktop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79dxcjuzP6k&t=3s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNOw8k_Uyx0 https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/935fos/q_1762/
  24. 1 point
    Betting man

    $1,000,000 Race for Sydney.

    Fantastic! Nothing brings hopeful new participants into any sport/industry than the dream of winning “the big one” well done nsw, makes me want to dash out and buy a few more pups!!
  25. 1 point
    dkc

    Open Class Races

    I don"t get your reference of Oamaru. Full fields sure but the average horse here is worth perhaps 5k. If there is a market for them at all. The things is once you get one good enough for the group races then you strike the AS team. The money your horse is now worth and your chances of winning one of these races, it makes it an easy decision to sell. That are the simple facts. The only thing that may save it is owners like Pat Kubala who wants to win a good race. And you say he won't sell! He must be a Bit of a Legend then.
  26. 1 point
    Fartoomuch

    Glorious Goodwood

    I with you about G G. Red Rum. Its hard to describe the course unless you have actually been to a day or of racing. And the less said about the society ladies the better
  27. 1 point
    puha

    Saundry on AW tracks

    Maybe they should install a synthetic cannabis track? Would be more apt considering theirs a few dopeheads running the joint .
  28. 1 point
    La Zip

    NZRB statement of intent released

    Looks great this white paper, same as the 2011 paper, Mr Purcell was so proud when he delivered that paper. We, [my husband and I] were excited by the 2011 plans and projections, as we all know now, NZ Racing is almost decimated, a laughing stock, only an elect few benefited, and whilst some of you may mock the breeders, I know I speak for at least many small breeders, there is now absolutely no incentive to keep going, in NZ that is. Across the pond we are doing OK, it is sad to see our NZ cousins treading water, with drowning an almost inevitable finale, our investments would be better placed here in OZ, we only stay with our Kiwi trainers in NZ as we respect and admire their skill sets, their tenacity and their passion, it costs us many thousands of dollars each month, however, until Mr Messara's suggestions and proposals are released and the statement of intent is released we cannot make a commitment further than a few months. The failure of the 2011 report, that was a Grimms fairy tale, this new release from NZRB, what confidence do we have, and I speak for my family and friends here, none whatsoever, until there are massive retrenchments at NZRB/NZTR and those left need to re-apply for their positions, and of course the panel that selects and places the key executives are policed and governed openly and with complete transparency we will not place any credence on NZ Racing whatsoever. May I add, one area that needs a complete overhaul is the day to day "policing" of the races. When reading the daily stewards reports, I'm actually wondering if they, indeed, are watching the same races as me...there is absolutely no policing...no questions asked...no transparency...and you want the punter to invest? If stewards did half their job, then perhaps the standard of riding might improve...the general comments from people here watching NZ racing is the standard of riding is questionable. like any sportsman, the more practice you get, the better you get at your sport...and if there aren't the meetings, then how can they improve their skills.
  29. 1 point
    Thanks for that P....well worth watching, some real characters in that.
  30. 1 point
    Beaut story Aaron, just a shame it was buried on Maori TV. The thrill of racing eh..A bunch of battlers from an anonymous Welsh Valley bred their own horse and took it to the top. Broke down in a jumps race with serious tendon trouble, they wouldn't put him down, had stem cell treatment and was nursed back to health to come back to win the Welsh Grand National. Not sure I would have tempted fate in the Grand National as they did, where the earlier problem surfaced again and he was retired. Won I think £170,000 in his career so they had a great run. Fantastic.....
  31. 1 point
    premixer

    Dark Horse - The story of Dream Alliance

    Thanks for the heads up, missed it tonight, but see its available on demand so will try watch it soon. https://www.maoritelevision.com/tv/shows/feature-documentaries/S01E001/dark-horse-incredible-true-story-dream-alliance
  32. 1 point
    Lee270744

    Well done Matt

    Maybe Murphy Blinds.
  33. 1 point
    What a neat story.
  34. 1 point
    dkc

    Open Class Races

    Take your blinkers off fartoomuch. All stars while they have every right to do what they please. They are killing New Zealand age group and open class racing by 1000 cuts. There's no answer to it but sell our better horses. The costs of training it is unafordable to race a horse unless there is a return. I know it's defeatist but surely they realise it as well.
  35. 1 point
    eljay

    Open Class Races

    They will programme some, and these will race with 3 or 4 acceptors. The TAB will come up with some "kooky" betting options and then they will all wonder why their turnover is plummeting. Unfortunately these days only options appear to be : 1) If in NI - send them from mid August to the SI 2) If in the SI - send them to Mark/Nat - this includes NI's that have just gone down there 3) Sit back and wait for Mark/Nat to sort them all out programmes in Aussie then watch them get exported. 4) If the above remedy not to your liking then just help an agent get fat and sell them off the sooner the better. In other words open class racing in NZ is next to extinct!
  36. 1 point
    I wonder if Jamie Thomsen is worried about his horse not getting a clear run :-)
  37. 1 point
    Berri

    Saundry on AW tracks

    Things will simply be done badly again unless those at the top actually listen to those that know. Tapeta is average, poly track is average, Kentucky dirt is average. Horses break down, its not right and that doesn't even get to the point where is it interesting to watch and good to bet on. In all of these conversations very little is said about Strathyr. Why not? Looks like the goods to me when comparing the others IF you want all weather racing. Then comes the overall design....not the surface or technology but the actual course architecture. Do you do something half arsed or something for the future generations. No doubt the fuck wits running racing who think they know everything but actually know very little (and this isn't everyone in the industry....just those who pretend to know everything and have convinced themselves that they do), will sell the others who know very little that the best track configuration can be seen in Australia because that's all they think they know. I'll say it 1000 times, look to the future. Don't look to mediocre. These tracks should have the potential to have 30 horses racing against each other. That gives the betting a chance to be better than good, but be great. Heaven forbid the day that our breeding numbers get up again and we start breeding top class horses again in numbers. Having a 16m wide track is soooo short sighted that that notion comes from people who don't understand betting fully. That's like saying a two lane road out of Auckland will be fine in 10 years time. And what about these courses? Shouldn't they be multiple entertainment centers so that the clubs and the industry can exploit entertainment, tourism, leveraged use events and the like? I know they'll fuck it up because there is not enough wide spread consultation with people who just might come up with cracking ideas that make the system work to its fullest potential. It'll be the same old morons bullshitting the same old rhetoric in an attempt to prove their worth. This isn't everyone in the industry, just the same ones that have continuity in their own malformed, mis-informed, delusional opinions that have proven to be incorrect in the past. The welfare of the horse should come first. They can't object to the rubbish that they are dished up with by the pricks that are lazy, complacent and mediocre.
  38. 1 point
    ivanthegreat

    WHO IS THE SHARK ?

    It is probably Matt Markham.............. simply because his 4 selections in each race at Oamaru are the same as the shark's. Well on past performances good luck following this crap , he regularly goes into Friday night with 1 or 2 winners. Having said this there are a couple of obvious ones there today so a basic pass today would be 3 winners. On the whole the entire lineup at trackside need to take a good look at their records as every one other than the Whale would qualify for a rates rebate.
  39. 1 point
    scooby3051

    Ray Huntley Memorial

    And nice of you to acknowledge them well done.
  40. 1 point
    POPA GAS

    Ray Huntley Memorial

    I would like to thank the Huntley family for giving coats as a prize,for getting in the final for the Ray Huntley Memorial . As we had 3 dogs in, we got 3 coats, which is very good for cold winter nights. And for them to give away a coat to all dogs that made the final. Again thank you, Bev Duganzich
  41. 1 point
    Whitelion

    Book on great nz broodmares

    Thank you would love them. No have not read his books.would nztba library have them?
  42. 1 point
    La Zip

    Power To Queensland

    Absolutely yes on both accounts. There are no better role models in the international arena of breeding and racing than HH The Aga Khan or Prince Khalid Abdullah, so they are a great place to start. I did mention a Juddmonte horse to a NZ stud master 3 years ago - Time Test, who now stands at the National Stud in Newmarket. He would have been a perfect horse .... But as NZ is so heavily dependent on the export market it’s going to be difficult to come up with a well performed, reasonably priced fashionable son of whatever the flavour of the month is...so I guess a bit of the out of the box, a la Aga Khan thinking, needs to happen. Rich Hill are thinking outside the square and have have taken a couple punts with Vadamos and their new Japanese stallion...I wish them all the luck with these two... and yes, in a typical NZ scenario, what stud (and partners) can afford the silly prices for new stallions. 20m+ Each for the 2 latest over hyped, over rated colts.
  43. 1 point
    ....

    First Season Sire Predictions

    Ferlax only ended up with 51 live foals so similar to Shamexpress and obviously a few have went overseas. These first season stallions working off small books. Then again Power was first season champion sire in NZ by individual winners and prize money last season and he only had 52 live foals.

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