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  1. 5 points
    Chris Wood

    Oamaru barrier staff

    Billy, for one, it's not their job, and with OSH breathing down their throats, and ACC Levies as they are, who can blame them. In the real world, we would have more attendants for every barrier crew in the country, but NZ racing can't afford it. I do take my hat off to each and everyone of these people involved in this job, it is a thankless task! Not many horses beat the Northern crew!
  2. 4 points
    Nope. I want to limit breeding. When three or four people are breeding 3-400 dogs a year and none of these dogs are going thru gap and only a little over a quater are getting to the track. Qs have to be asked, and alot of the dogs getting to the track cant get pass c1 is ridiculious
  3. 3 points
    Trump

    Does anyone have an opinion on....

    A question for Final Luca. You stated that Michelle Payne was " "treated like a dog". Can you explain/expand on that statement please. I think you are incorrect but I'd be interested in how you came to use such a phrase. My only recollection of her "grievance" with the racing industry was her general view that woman jocks don't get the same opportunities as the males, when it comes to a Group races. She made her point quite emphatically after her winning ride (ride of the year) in the Cup, as a spur of the moment reaction to winning the race after nearly being taken off at the request of one of the owners after her MV Cup ride. I think she is correct in that statement mind you. But that doesn't sound like being "treated like dog". Please explain?
  4. 3 points
    Trump

    Interesting comments from David Hayes

    The G1 1600 to 2000m winning colts seem to be most wanted by the Studs. Staying pedigrees with speed characteristics. Ones that come to mind are Reset, Zabeel, Keeper, Lonhro, Show a Heart, Redoubtes Choice, All Too Hard, etc. All too performers at 1600m G1 level in Australia. Some go on to win beyond 1600m but they have had the speed and stamina to win those good 1600m races.
  5. 3 points
    That is the problem , quantity over quality. Fields should be selected highest grade down over , mixing grades if need be to make quality racing .Even 7 dog middle and 6 dog distance fields up the grades is surely much better than all of the C1 sprints going round now. The C1 sprints have a place , but the quality dogs should come first.
  6. 3 points
    mr dickson cider

    Oamaru barrier staff

    Berri you sound like the complete barrier attendant but don't bag our staff. I was in behind that horse waiting to be kicked if you could have got it facing the gates then your a better man than me.Hats off to you for being so brave
  7. 3 points
    Last weekend many had points to add in and PBA just dumped the comp so i tried to step in... not too well but at least we got it sorted and got a happy comp now too...thanks to Hesi helping out...cheers.
  8. 3 points
    Bet Hughie was giggling when he heard that as he went past.....
  9. 3 points
    Berri

    Oamaru barrier staff

    I paid my way through Uni doing barriers two days a week when I was at Curtin in Perth. In two years we missed out on one horse, a pig by Beau Sovereign called Sturgeon. I made it my pet project never to lose him at the barriers and worked with his trainer to get him sorted. Also flew horses in planes to get to Uni so I learnt the game through fire. Also spent time in UK where they use the blind fold on a regular basis. It seriously works the oracle. So this "keyboard warrior" was appalled, shocked and frustrated at the absolute lack of barrier knowledge that I saw at Oamaru in Race 7. Totally unprofessional in this day and age
  10. 2 points
    how about you watch last years awards hah? where the Ahern rep said they are breeding over 300 a year and plan to increase their numbers. How many Ahern dogs do we see get to the track? At most, 100 a season including imports. How many do we see go through gap? less than 1/5... and they are not even the biggest breeders in NZ as im sure you are well aware of Joe blogs
  11. 2 points
    scooby3051

    Ollie harshly treated ??

    Sort of evens out what he got for betting.... swings and roundabouts.
  12. 2 points
    Yeh a bloody hard task. Depends on how much spare time you have. The good thing is if people have an incorrect score all they need to do is knock on your door
  13. 2 points
    Berri

    Oamaru barrier staff

    The unfortunate part about yesterday was that the ex jock that was trying to lead the horse in had no horse sense at all. What we was doing was counter horse intuitive. This isn't personal. It's a poke at a system that is getting progressively worse. Had that footage aired in the international racing market we would have been the weekly joke. As for the use of a blind, it's been on many a first starter in the UK and it's generally put on while the jock is up, although I have seen it put on an I mounted horse before....what ever works. Have you ever tried a blind? Horses often need encouragement and security. Having a couple of people either side from the rear often does the job. You don't need to be 14 stone. I weight 90kgs and I can assure you I didn't weigh that when I was at Uni. I take my hats off to most barrier staff. I don't take my hat off to incompetent barrier staff, or those who haven't pursued enough passion to ensure mediocrity doesn't rear its ugly head.
  14. 2 points
    Toblerone

    a t lowe

    Actually, it kind of is. The JCA reports mentions the prosecuting Steward Mr Mulcay basically went with a reduced/lesser charge as he thought the penalty for an improper driving charge would be too severe.
  15. 2 points
    Midget

    Oamaru barrier staff

    Not sure about "up themselves", NGH was too busy up our girlfriends, well not very far up our girlfriends I'm told but he was doing his best with what God gave him. The only one up himself was Graham Walters, of Loch Linnie fame, he was desperately in love with the half length mirror, but even he came around after a bit of roughing up from the locals. I think we generally liked the northerners, they taught us all about hair dye, bell bottoms, soft top cars, Neil Diamond, how to roll joints, and how to wear bangles on our wrists and studs in our ears.
  16. 2 points
    uddes

    Box draws

    Definitely think the system needs looking at the last 2 auckland meetings I've had five races with more than 1 dog in and have drawn side by side in all of them.Random? I think not.
  17. 2 points
    I wonder how many dogs were nommed for that COD 603 today? They really need to allow us to have 6 dog dis races again
  18. 2 points
    cantab matt

    a t lowe

    Yes and the JCA thought the charge to be sufficient to determine guilt and therefore upheld the charge. The power is in the hands of the JCA they could of dismissed the charge of evidence was insufficient. Im my opinion the suspension was warranted and the term appropriate- what isn't appropriate though was the pathetic JCA imposed penalty on Robert Argue, he should of also got a couple of months..... This isn't the fault of the stipes though
  19. 2 points
    Like your post. Ours are out because of kennel cough. Not having a problem getting starts. The only bugbear for us is the lack of distance races. Problem for us is (because of health problems) that we are confined to Auckland.
  20. 2 points
    Hound Fan

    Box draws

    Wassa..congrats on your wedding..........There is no doubt there is a problem with box draws ....the biggest example of this is in the maiden at auckland sunday is Glenn hunts 2 dogs drawing 7 and 8 and then on thursday the same dogs get the same draw 7 and 8....after talking to a lady at internal affairs or whatever it is called now.....even she agreed the chances would be slim.....I have to write a formal complaint and she said if there was enough others that doubted the systym complained they would have a look into it....so here is every ones chance if they think it is not right put pen to paper...
  21. 2 points
    Great effort at Ashburton.....shows the advantage / attraction of a decent track compared to the Northern bogs.
  22. 2 points
    ....

    A challenge to the breeding theorists

    Makes sense, With the poor record of in-breeding Danehill you would hope that the majority of mares he served were from a non Danehill sire line. The one Frankel that you mentioned that is out of a Danehill line mare is Cunco, he has a very interesting pedigree as his sire (Frankel) is a grandson of Sadler's Wells out of a Danehill mare and his dam (Chrysanthemum) is a grandson of Danehill out of a Sadler's Wells mare. Your statement reminds me of a recent article (racing post I think) in regards to who Coolmore will be sending most of their top class race mares by Galileo to once at stud as many of these top Galileo racemares are out of Danehill sire line broodmares. So they don't want be wanting to further duplicate the Danehill and Sadler's Wells, stallions mentioned were Zoffany and War Front (who they have used in the past who stands in America), unfortunately the ideal stallion to use is Dubawi but Coolmore won't use Darley stallions! The search for different outcross options remains
  23. 2 points
    JAKH

    Oamaru Jockey Club

    It was great to be the owner of a winning horse yesterday at your meeting. I would like to mention to the commitee members that after driving 250 km to get there it would have been nice to have a hand shake and a drink of congratulations. Bloody poor show when you have to go to the bar and shout yourself. While a nice young lady gave us a bottle of wine just remember who pays the bills for these horses. Suggest to commitee that become more active looking after people and you will get more horses in your fields.
  24. 2 points
    bus stop

    Mike and Linda Martin

    Congratulations to Mike and Linda on their quinella yesterday at Auckland it was great to see these long serving participants back with a couple of dogs that I am sure will give them quite a few wins between them. I have always held Mike and Linda in high regard as trainers their dogs are always well presented and look the part their strike isnt to bad either.The word round the traps is that this litter is their swansong sad if true. But I am sure Mike will keep tote turn over ticking over
  25. 1 point
    For some reason Auckland and cambridge seem to get only 11 races why?.....I would like to hear from other trainers to how many off there dogs are missing out.....a lot off people seem to think it is a lack off dogs i think it is a selection criteria problem up in the north and if fixed they would easy get 12 races plus..... please let me know and i will go in to bat...They should not have woken the sleeping grizzly bear....
  26. 1 point
    Lincoln blue

    R.I.P Randall Judd

    I would like to pass on my condolences to the Family/Friends/Co-workers of Randall. Still transporting horses till the end,He was a Top bloke who loved a laugh. Fly high my friend. Simpson Racing
  27. 1 point
    rdytdy

    Ollie harshly treated ??

    One was deliberate, the other not though to be fair Chevy. Will find out the result today though.
  28. 1 point
    chevy86

    Ollie harshly treated ??

    Talking about veering out sharply, Jasmine Fawcett will be relieved she is not riding in Oz!
  29. 1 point
    I do agree with what you say here but unfortunately the association and the clubs have their backs against a wall on this because their in the position of "once bitten twice shy". We have all seen certain trainers nominating dogs for distance races with absolutely no intentions of lining them up in it purely to get the numbers to have the race carded in the first place. If they allow six dog distance races theres every chance this will still happen and they will be 4 or 5 dog fields. There would have to be a stand down rule ammendment that would coincide with 6 dog distance fields...maybe something like scratched dogs can only be inspected by track vets in the presence of a stipe and must be checked within 24hrs of the time they were scratched, if the so called injury or illness is not detected then 5 week stand down, this would go close to detering field manipulation. Classic case of the minority wrecking it for the majority here.
  30. 1 point
    2A2 it is so that those at the sharp end in Petone get free tickets
  31. 1 point
    legs&lashes

    Cawbourne Crouch Retired

    was great to see Crouchy in the weekend bro and great to see him enjoying his retirement in such great surroundings.he will give the kids a lot of enjoyment.
  32. 1 point
    Pretty much accurate Huey. Maybe Hayes' sentiments reflect the Australian way of thinking, they're always in a hurry, mind you when your ancestors survival depended on getting away from the crime scene ASAP it does sort of make sense. Meantime they have very few decent stayers ( nor do we at the moment though ) and their big cups are largely full of Europeans, bred or trained of course, but still big one paced slugs they've bought out of Europe for about ten times what they're worth, or will ever win, unless they go to Oakbank. Roll on Savabeel, Shocking and Tavistock, bring back the glory days of NZ racing when our stayers raped them every year.
  33. 1 point
    Insider

    Does anyone have an opinion on....

    If it's a 'bloody miracle' there's a likelihood he will be canonised soon. 'Saint Terry', its got a nice ring to it don't you think?
  34. 1 point
    Dopey

    A challenge to the breeding theorists

    Given champions are the Extream exception ....Actually asking for a model to predict the variance is an oximoron.
  35. 1 point
    As I mentioned in a pervious topic the future of racing in the North is facing a number of concerns around dog numbers and the quality of dogs racing no disrespect to anyone intended but it is what is. I honestly cant see any improvement up North going forward as their is only a few owners importing dogs and they are not what i would call open class dogs of what i have seen racing up north. So yes the industry needs a breeding program which is controlled to a certain point on quailty vs numbers
  36. 1 point
    I know

    WHY 11 RACES AT AUCKLAND AND CAMBRIDGE

    Not for turnover
  37. 1 point
    Berri

    Oamaru barrier staff

    Start with two people to the side, one on each side where the saddle is. Don't have the idiot you had pulling on its head like that. Making nice cooing and reassuring sounds whilst calmly touching and patting the horse, slowly get to the rear at both sides. Don't lose physical contact with the horse and watch it's ears. That's the view into the brain. Make sure both parties have bodily contact on either side with the bloke in front, calmly patting and caressing the horse's head as though he was playing a virgin. Then slowly both men on either side, without losing bodily contact, link up behind. If it kicks out you'll both be out of range because if there's two of you the horse won't know which one to tag. What ever, go calmly, always soothing. When you do manage to link up behind, have a lot of contact, not just with the linked arms. That allows you to stear it by using your weight as the guide. If it still doesn't want a bar of it, put a blind fold on. Works wonders but once again you need serious body contact to stear it to the right place. That will get you 99 percent of all horse problems.
  38. 1 point
    Berri

    A challenge to the breeding theorists

    It's actually a real mess.....stallions covering 200 odd mares each season....progeny that have multiple strands of Northern Dancer on both sides. We're seeing an explosion of wind afflictions, immune response irregularities and a mess of champion racehorses who are claimed to be the best ever but unfortunately none of them are materially challenging historical race times. All well and good giving Frankel (for example) an all time highest rating after only 14 starts but surely the highest ever rated horse should not only win those races but win them in the fastest times ever. That's the real measure of Bolt....not his unbeaten record. So to the pattern of the current thoroughbred industry. We are being seriously fucked up by the likes of Coolmore. Greed is now King followed by a topping of fashion. The whole game should be trying to improve the breed, or at the very least, attempting to maintain the vitality and duribility of the breed. There is a common language being will progeny be saleable. That's bollocks. It should be does my mare suit on type and balance of pedigree so that one breeds vitality and soundness. The Northern Dancer breed are not really durable, so crossing them a sqillions times won't be good for the breed. One only has to go back a few generations to wonder why the likes of Hyperion and Bold Ruler have been banned to the back blocks when at their peak they were where Danehill and co are now. What is seriously conspicuous is that for all his amazing progeny, where is a hier apparent sire son to Galileo? Now before you start jumping up and down about Frankel, just remember he covered mares in his first season who included 40 odd group one winners and 60 odd dams of group winners, and when his progeny hit the group one races, they failed. I've been a real fan of this horse from the day I saw him as an I raced 2yo but I'm just keeping it real. It also didn't stop me from being the under bidder of a yearling that made 1.1m quid this year. As to the serious breeders that I mentioned....the main trait of all of them is that they try to breed for the breed and not the sales ring. In some instances they are setting up the following generation's progeny. Bunker Hunt was into hybrid vigour and achieved this by buying what he thought was pedigree wise the best representatives of certain bloodlines. So he sourced mares and horses from all over the World, in particular South America. if I were to articulate the general expression, it would be that all of these breeders really knew their breed on type and personality and they continue to try and promote the essence of that
  39. 1 point
    They should get Glen Saville on there and ask him to justify the deplorable treatment of punters under his watch.
  40. 1 point
    Black Kirrama

    R.I.P Randall Judd

    Wonderful bloke,was Randall. Always so very kind to our family, and funny enough he came to our family funeral 3 weeks ago and I told him how well he looked !! Happy memories. Rev Somervell
  41. 1 point
    "JESUS CHRIST" Love it. Will quote it for years.
  42. 1 point
    billy connolly

    Oamaru barrier staff

    And why don't those vets and farriers lend a hand at the start? The vet and farrier at Ellerslie sometimes lends a hand, but the majority do nothing except drive around the course in their V8 Range Rovers! Regarding the head post, horses are 10 times easier to load without jockeys, but for some reason the stewards don't permit them to dismount now. The smart jockeys of yesteryear always dismounted around at the start to keep weight off their mounts back.
  43. 1 point
    modest mouse

    Race videos

    As with everything else in this industry, things are going downhill. Was in a Petone a few weeks ago, and was so tempted to give them the what for. But I rather concentrate on my dogs.
  44. 1 point
    hsvman

    a t lowe

    Totally unfair to suspend him. It wasnt as if he was in a proper speed dual and chasing the horse up. The gaps didn't open up in the field so the other drivers weren't to concerned at the tempo they were running. More of a case on the hose being in a feild too strong for it and then ending up keen while in the worst postion. The rui should have a lot to answer for the stipes consistency and countless obvious mistakes lately Especailly in the north .it's turning into a joke. Friday night at Cambridge was one of the worse causes of incompetences and the chair stipe decided to go for a lessor charge because the initial charge could have a heavy penalty. Surely that's not teaching anyone and is a complete turnoff for punters.
  45. 1 point
    Happy Sunrise

    a t lowe

    just to clarify one of my points. both horse and driver were out of their class but so what! most of the horses were in the same category today.. outclassed. if they werent there, harness would be finished! give me a great days racing at methven, oamaru or the west coast over the likes of ashburton today anytime
  46. 1 point
    Will do sorry I missed it Memphis....
  47. 1 point
    globederby12

    Thuggish Rugby Players

    Where on earth has this guy materialised from. Did someone leave a door unlocked somewhere, there has to be an APB out for him from some institution surely.
  48. 1 point
    Berri You know as well as anyone that there is no "silver bullet" in selecting horses whether it is based on a pedigree or on type. If there was, then Coolmore, Darley and everyone else would be onto it. Most people who look at pedigrees have their own ideas ( or share with others) on what they think are important and similarly those who look at types and temperament have their ideas. The fact that Winx did not sell for millions as a yearling shows that she didn't fill the criteria of those with deep pockets ( and presumably those with the best advice money can buy). Those who look at pedigrees are just trying improve the odds of selecting a good horse in exactly the same way those who look for a particular type of horse . I think Swynford , for example, has said a few times he would always look at the horses he has selected "off paper" with the help of an experienced horseman. Similarly I doubt anyone would buy a horse of any value just on type and not at least look at the page in the catalogue. It would be very boring if we all agreed with each other on the issue.
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  50. 1 point