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  1. N1MUE

    LGL III

    After a very brief interlude, it's time for another round - organiser and sponsor are determined to make it to at least the halfway point this time. Successful bets from the winners of the last round, and the generosity of a few people, means that we have another healthy prize pool. Rules are pretty much the same as last time - only changes are highlighted in red below. No need to express interest in joining - just watch out for the entry thread later in the week, and post your selection there. THE RULES 1-The competition will run for twelve rounds - every Saturday from this coming weekend (6 February). 2-The competition is open to all members of Racecafe. One entry per username/login - you can't post multiple entries for you, your daughter, your mother-in-law, etc ...... Of course you must be in from the start. It wouldn't be fair to allow people to join later on as the aim is to last twelve weeks without picking more than one winner. Late entrants will be permitted in Week 2 although they will start on a score of -40 and lose a life (ie. as if they'd picked a winner in week 1). No late entries after week 2. 3-Each selector will post one "lay" each Saturday. This can be on any NEW ZEALAND thoroughbred race, or at one of the nominated Australian thoroughbred race meetings, run that day. I will post a selection thread each week which sets out the meetings you can select from. 4-Your selection MUST be posted, and appear on the website, before midday each Saturday. Obviously if there is a race before midday and you want to use that race, then you must post before scheduled start time. The midday deadline will be enforced. If you miss the deadline in week 1, you won't be in the competition but can be a late entry in week 2 (as outlined above). After week 1 those who fail to post before midday will be allocated the BEST BET. I will nominate the BEST BET horse on the selection thread on Friday evening or Saturday morning - I will aim for it to be the bookies most favoured horse. You can post one sub (can be in a different race to your first selection) - this will be used if your first pick is scratched, late scratched or abandoned. Any scratchings can be replaced up until midday...after this you're on the BEST BET. If the BEST BET wins you lose 40 points and a life. If the BEST BET loses you survive but you don't earn any points. This means there is a good incentive to post. If your horse is officially late scratched (and you haven't posted a sub) you may have no chance to change it...indeed you can't after midday. Therefore if you're late scratched and don't/can't post a replacement you will survive but score no points. If you're scratched normally you will go on the BEST BET unless you post a replacement before midday. Abandoned races or meetings count as late scratchings. Note you can only post a replacement pick if your original selection is scratched, so make sure the first pick you post is the one you want. If the BEST BET is scratched you earn no points but will survive the week. 5-All losing "lays" will score points. Points scored = 100/win dividend A lay paying $100 will earn 1.00 point. A lay paying $2 will earn 50.00 points. A lay paying $4.30 will earn 23.26 points etc. 6-The first time a selector picks a winner they will lose forty points...the second time they pick a winner they're out of the main competition (see Plate details below). For this competition a deadheat for 1st counts as a win and you lose forty points and a life. 7- Joker - each entrant will have one joker which they can play in any of the 12 rounds should you wish. You don't have to play your joker at all if you don't want to. The joker will double your score during that round - both positive or negative ie. if your selection wins you lose 80 points (but you only lose one life). If you play your joker and the horse is late scratched, you will earn no points for that round, but your joker will carry forward - you can use it in a subsequent round (unless it's the last round in which case it's bad luck). If you play your joker and your horse is a regular scratching, and you don't post a replacement prior to posting deadline, then you go onto the BEST BET and if the BEST BET wins you will lose a life and lose 80 points. If the BEST BET is beaten you will earn two x NIL = NIL. Moral of that story - if you play your joker, best to check on Saturday that your horse is not a scratching. 8-Points will be calculated from the official TAB closing win dividends on their website. 9-The competition will end after 12 rounds or when everyone has been eliminated. The three entrants with the most points at that time will win the prizes - see below. 10. Prizes - Moose has once again kindly offered $155 (thanks to the Rookie and Ian), I will put up $50 and Geoff has contributed $45 of his profit from LGL II. First place will earn a $155 bet, 2nd place a $70 bet and third place a $25 bet. Moose and I will place bets to these values chosen by the top 3 and they will get to keep any profit earned on this bet - if they're successful they make some risk-free money and this allows us to recycle some or all of the money into the next competition. Plate competition - if you lose two lives, but want to continue playing you can. I will give a $20 bet (same "profit earned" deal) to the highest scoring knocked out entrant (when the comp ends), provided they have scored more points than the winner of the main comp.
    6 points
  2. Blackcat the name of the horse was Honeybun. Ivan won on her at Awapuni on 22/12/62. She was a 4m by Targui out of Sweet Mist and Owned and Trained by J.A. Hennah of Hastings. The race was the Apprentices' Handicap and her carded weight was 8.0 but Ivan rode her at 7.9. She won by 3/4 of a length and paid £18/14/6. I have a collection of Hoofbeats from that era and if I can find a photo of Ivan and Honeybun I will let you know. Hope this information is of help to you.
    4 points
  3. A typical response from you, attack the messenger not the message. You raised the point about no racing in Auckland today and asked who's awake and who's asleep? After considering the question you posed, I gave you a pretty thorough overview from a thoroughbred perspective. I provided figures and historical data, including questioning why there is poor attendance of racing at Ellerslie and going on and explaining today was a one off re the sales being a week earlier this year and going back to normal next year as well as providing information as to how well the Te Teko meeting does. As I have little knowledge from a harness perspective I suggested you raise it on the Harness Forum for their viewpoint. Your failure to acknowledge or respond by debating any of the points I put forward and instead attack me personally speaks more about you than me. Sorry to have woken you up.
    4 points
  4. TOTAL AFTER WEEK 2= $396 ( $18.80 PER SHARE) Well what a good end to the week with the pair nearly breaking even for the week. Its shows slow and steady still gets a result. So let's build on this and onto Champions Day on Saturday with Nek & Porky to invest $210 each wisely. Hope everyone has a great week and talk later in the week
    4 points
  5. Trident

    Auckland Anniversary Day

    I appreciate fewer and fewer of us are going on course these days but it just seems crazy to have no horse racing on at all on a public holiday in our biggest city on a summers day. Everywhere I've been in Auckland today has been overflowing and teaming with people and that's a lot of heads in a city this big. It feels like the people who set the dates have conceded defeat before the contest even began. You have hundreds of thousands of people today organizing which activity they will get involved in. Not one single person out of 1.6 million people contemplated horse racing as an option simply because there was no horse racing on. Call me old fashioned but to my mind today is EXACTLY the sort of day you should be putting horse racing on people's menu. Wonderful opportunity lost on a glorious summer day. Oh well,if the decision makers don't care,why should I ?
    4 points
  6. Yes Tom we normally load a horse first if it's held us up at previous starts. If it has been really bad we will start at the 2 minute call or before to make sure we get away on time.If the trainer does not like the thought of standing in the gates that long then it is up to him/her to educate it better.
    4 points
  7. Barrier blankets are a waste of time with the new Simtrak gates which are lined with marine carpet on the sides and back gates the horse does not come in contact with the metal any more unlike the caddy stye gates,Most time the blanket falls off as soon as the horse starts playing up which they do wether they have a blanket on or not.By loading the bad ones last it stops tying staff up with having a man up with them while all the rest are loaded, but on the other hand it is rewarding the horse for bad behaviour. Once again it comes down to why these bad mannered horse have barrier certificates.
    4 points
  8. i i capatain McCook steady as she goes...
    3 points
  9. I quite agree. I think they should make barrier blankets almost redundant. If required in exceptional circumstances, then those horses should still line up in their usual order and shouldn't have barrier certificates until they can do that sensibly.
    3 points
  10. What are you talking about? I saw the incident but the barrier attendants behaviour certainly didn't stand out for me. No different to what they ever do but not too many nags rear straight over backwards like that. I have no axe to grind with Te Akau either(as I have previously stated I have had a share in a horse with them and found them excellent) but with all due respect this was a case of a misbehaving horse not misbehaving barrier attendants. I suspect the horse's name might be a clue as to it's attitude in this case In my experience most of those 'equine ladies' you mentioned earlier are total know alls who deal with half bloody draught horses not hyped up racehorses and who have no idea(but endless opinions) on how racehorses should be treated or dealt with.
    3 points
  11. Back to the topic. Didn't NZTR decide to do away with virtually all Sunday dates a few years ago ? They were handed to the gypsies en masse I what would arguably be described as the biggest fuck up since Dunkirk. Sundays happen every week, Anniversary day is once a year. Sunday is a day of rest and relaxation, with time for discretionary activities like racing. Kids don't have sport on Sundays so the punters aren't distracted. Aucklander have a lot to do on a long summer's weekend, ask Cubes, they're simply preoccupied and too busy for racing. 98.7% of Aucklanders will start the day with a double shot soya latte, with butterscotch, followed by a Thai massage, with a coriander and kale facial moisturizer, gently applied by a 16 year old ( boy if you're from Ponsonby, a girl if you're from Remuera, and a transgender if you're from Herne Bay ), then they'll have their weekly colonic, some with a fire hose, followed with a rest in a hemp hammock watching the bronzed pool boy lazily tidy up the magnolia flowers floating on the marble pool, then a designer salad with nasturtiums and pansies, all by the water watching their friends glide by in the new 85 foot Riviera, with two jet skis towed behind, then they'll be off to the Ferrari or Porsche shop to sup coconut water and fig cocktails whilst inspecting the brand new soft top with carbon fiber blue tooth hair dryer and rear mounted mountain bike rack ( not the only thing that's rear mounted in Auckland ), after using the platinum card to buy three new motors, one for the missus, for her pool boy to borrow, one for the girlfriend who drives up from Hamilton to get a new tattoo and meet in a cheap motel ( under $480 plus per hour ) for an hour once a week, and one for the spotty faced teenage daughter, who is about a 33% chance to actually be sired by the father in residence, and who just has to have a brand new soft top on her first day back at St Cuthberts, with a secret glove box to hide the E tabs and vodka in, then once that's all sorted your Aucklander will typically do a bit of trading on the market, make about 12 million by three o'clock by selling what the Salt Group is buying, especially Veritas, then retire to the club for a late organic sushi and sashimi lunch, made by an authentic Japanese geisha girl, with skin the colour of putty, followed by a game of tennis, three sets, against a bloke who's booked into Fred Hollows next week, then celebrate the victory with a bottle of a good big hairy red from a Waiheke vineyard that uses grapes crushed using naked nymphs from the islands, with their skin rubbed gently with almond butter, you'll of course be having a short rest now, before it's off to Les Mills to bench press about two pounds of butter whilst checking out all the solo mothers in the cafe drinking carrot and ginger juice while they nibble a heirloom tomato, spray free organic tomatoes of course, hand picked, then it's into the showers, communal showers, and a generous lathering of coconut and fig body butter, applied by the other bloke in the communal shower, who is either a Shortland St barrister or a judge, one leads to the other anyway and they both wear pink cardigans and grey shoes, then it's back into the soft top, off to the course for nine holes, and sometimes a bit of golf too, after which it's home time, to check if the missus has finished with the pool boy and remembered to get the designer takeaways for the two spotty kids, and their friends named Charlotte and Sebastian who're staying over, and who brought the E's, freshly made in a designer loft on K Rd by a Ph D chemistry student from somewhere exotic like underneath the Mangere bridge, then it's time to slip into the Gucci loafers, the Versace smoking jacket with the brand new Andrew Martin cravat over the silk double cuffed off white pleated shirt from Crane Brothers, and now, as the sun goes down it's time for a little theatre, in house of course, in the private 12 seater, and tonight your garden variety Aucklander will be watching the Hateful 8, with Quentin Tarantino or Zoe Bell popping over, while sipping a nutty cognac and smoking a fine 15 year old Cuban, and having a cigar afterwards, then finally, just before midnight, dropping a couple of quaaludes and laying his/her weary head down on a goose down pillow, stacked two high, between Egyptian cotton sheets and slipping into a deep slumber whilst reflecting on what a lovely day it's been in paradise, what you're going to do with that three million you made today, to stop your bank balance swelling like the front of the pool boys canary yellow budgy smugglers, they're the budgie smugglers with the double gusset, the same as Dan Carter wears, speaking of which I must Skype Dan and Honor when the quaaludes wear off and I can speak English again, and Bill Cosby goes home, and why the fuck is Bill Cosby giving me a colonic at midnight anyway ? geez these quaaludes are good, thank God the spotty face daughter bought plenty of them on her first day back at school. And tomorrow, well you know how it works now, wake up to a hot sticky rip snorting BJ, a couple of liney linesys, or whatever Mitchell Pearce was on, and so life in Auckland goes on .....and meantime Cubes goes home, back to CHCH, happy with his two new fillies in his life..... There's the reason Aucklanders can't quite fit in a day at the races. Hold on, hold on, breaking news, that's a day out of Cameron George's diary, no wonder we haven't got time for races in Auckland .
    2 points
  12. well that was fun ...... good luck nekky and porky
    2 points
  13. I've been coming to this website for about 20 years and your response to this thread I started with sincerity is the most pathetic I've ever read. You have serious small man syndrome and strike me as a totally inadequate man who spends his entire life trolling Race Cafe in some sad sorry attempt at gaining recognition and to give meaning to an otherwise pointless existence. Is your life really that pathetic? I didn't start this thread to gain support for anything. I was simply using Race Cafe exactly for what it was designed to encourage. Communication on racing subjects among people with an interest in the sport. Why you'd belittle that is completely beyond me. I have just noticed that I appear to have more likes on my previous messages than actual contributions I've made which seems to be the exception rather than the rule so clearly some Race Cafe members felt I made a worthwhile contribution while on here. It's not something I pursued or motivated me. People make contributions on this website for all sorts of reasons. Most all have two things in common. The first is their love of the game and secondly their desire to make a good thing even better. I'm so over your constant petty snipes referring to me as Jimmy. You're not in the least bit funny. The phrase "Get A Life" applies more to you than any other individual I've ever encountered on my life journey. Congratulations on successfully turning me off Race Cafe.
    2 points
  14. mooseman

    LGL III

    Nice work John, cant wait to make it to at least round 3 this time. Good on the winners of LGL II to win the cash carry forward for round LGL III....! Yay team
    2 points
  15. puha

    Auckland Anniversary Day

    Te Teko is where i first fell in love with horse racing. Used to clock in at Uncle Tassie at 8 am in morning then straight to the carp ark and shoot down to the Texas track and watch my first GG go through his paces. Te Teko has always had great community support and a fantastic country meeting. I might be wrong but I think those idiots down south are dropping them to one meeting a season. Bloody crazy if they do.
    2 points
  16. biff

    Auckland Anniversary Day

    You're right with that comment Trident, The decision makers don't care...the eagle drops their money in and that's the end game......as for being innovative and enthusiastic, love to see that, let's see what the Aussie comes back with in the way of new ideas, after all he's been at a gabfest in Asia. We all know how articulate he is, I can't wait for the press conference about how well NZ racing is going, about how good all those export dollars are, yummy yummy......its all about perception you see Trident, reality passes them by, NZ's largest city, shoulda been a meeting at Avondale, picnic meeting, free admin and betting vouchers, a pop up bookie or 3, God alone knows but something.....
    2 points
  17. chelseacol

    PRO BOWL

    It would be a heck of a story for Manning to win this one at his age. I'm relatively neutral at the moment as none of the teams I really like have got close (gee it's no fun being a Titans fan !). Nice that this year it's a public holiday ... although the Tuesday morning hangover remains an issue
    2 points
  18. Winning post lounge would be the way to go. They'll look after you out there should be a great day
    2 points
  19. Well I don't know about that VS!!! - I was pretty sure I had both winners in the bag in last two races myself I guess we'll never know..... Thanks with Sewreel's win, it sure is a great feeling! May not have been quite as big as Dundeel's wins - but yes bubbles were definitely consumed
    2 points
  20. His life may well have depended on it Trident......some unsavoury types in that game.
    2 points
  21. Today is the anniversary day of New Zealand's biggest city. Around 1.6 million people now reside in Auckland. Most of them have today off work. No Thoroughbred race meeting on in Auckland today. No Harness race meeting on in Auckland today. In New Zealand's City Of Sails has somebody missed the boat? 14 Greyhound Races however at Manukau. Who's awake? Who's asleep?
    1 point
  22. My mate had a 1/11 on a yellow TAB slip from the Henderson TAB . Medici led all the way and weakened to third paid $19.75 a place
    1 point
  23. I Have Left

    LGL III

    I will put up a bonus $50 cash prize (bank deposit only) to the winner provided they beat Mainland Rookies score from LGL 2 of 339.13
    1 point
  24. N1MUE

    LGL III

    Especially the ones with barrier blankets, rigged barrier draws or very generous re-handicaps
    1 point
  25. biff

    Auckland Anniversary Day

    Petone is the dead end of New Zealand Insider [residents and a certain shop excepted!] Barnum and Bailey could set up at the top end of Jackson St and still not compete.
    1 point
  26. Sir G is on a roll another $26 off Hollywood Lad so $73.90 with all up still to come
    1 point
  27. Another $17.90 off trifecta total $47.90 so far
    1 point
  28. Breeder

    Yearling Sales

    I can remember O'Reilly going through a few lean years, so yes I also agree with Newmarket.
    1 point
  29. Nice start $30 off zanella
    1 point
  30. Further to that, NZ stewards reports are in braille, there are doggie bowls outside the room for their labradors, and a bin in the corner for their white canes........blood oath.
    1 point
  31. I might add Jamie Richards has been a barrier attendant so he will know what it is like
    1 point
  32. Canelo

    Yearling Sales

    people wrote off Savabeel at the same stage then he went boom
    1 point
  33. Midget

    No surprise what happened!

    Not sure anyone is bashing Te Akau, these are just facts and anyone with a keen eye has seen this going on for a long time with that barn. Sorry if that's an inconvenient truth. BTW blankets shouldn't be banned as they have an important role to play with some horses, but those who wear them should be made to load first. You'll almost certainly find their application will then be far more selective, if at all. As for your stinging criticism of the barrier boys, well let's measure your value by that because you won't find a friend in racing with that attitude. They do a marvelous job in difficult circumstances, they're under resourced and treated at best indifferently, but probably better described as badly. Instead of wasting money on overseas travel NZTR should apply more funding to the barrier boys, that's the truth and that's how you should look at it, or better still, get the barrier boys to do your job for a day, and you do theirs, then let's hear you criticise them.
    1 point
  34. I care about horse welfare very much. If a trainer / driver is repeatedly hitting his horse with haymakers in front of a crowd in the home straight then what does he get up to with that horse away from the public eye? Having said that my biggest concern with excessive whip use is when it occurs simultaneously with betting movements in lesser races. This occurs routinely at NSW harness meetings. You see a horse we will call "Nottodaythanks" start at Bathurst. Has got form and you expect it to perform well. It opens up at $4. By the time the race starts the horse is paying $6.50. No money has arrived for the horse. At the start of the race the driver makes no attempt to obtain a prominent position despite all the winners being on pace that night. He makes no attempt to improve and allows other horses to go around him until he's in a hopeless position. He makes a perfunctory run at the 800 just to see how wide and close to the leaders he can get for a few strides and then gives the horse a couple of token slaps for appearance sake. Then same horse starts a week later at Bankstown. Poorly drawn this time. Horse opens up at $7. Race starts and horse has been the subject of substantial support. Shortly after the race starts his price drops down to $3.30. Driver looks anxious to lead from his bad draw and makes it to the front like it really mattered. Refuses to hand up. They arrive at the home straight and the driver of "Yestodaythanks" looks desperate and all out to win. He hits his horse repeatedly and quickly like his very life depending on winning. He scrapes home and celebrates like he just won the Interdominion Grand Final. That's the kind of whip action that bothers me..
    1 point
  35. Huey

    Auckland Anniversary Day

    I can see your point, but none of them go when its on anyway do they?
    1 point
  36. Cubes

    Yearling Sales

    Cubity was underbidder ( well one of them anyway )....just doing my job to help out....32k seemed not bad price for Festival Sale at the time
    1 point
  37. I think to keep public confidence restrict the use of the whip to say the last 150 and then anything goes-I think the public perception of over use of the whip is not as big as some would believe. at the moment there is no differential between an Anthony butt haymaker and murray Edmonds hitting the shaft .both get the same treatment when it comes the number that is counted. I think in a whip charge the vet should inspect the horse for marks etc I don't think there is preferential treatment-
    1 point
  38. Sorry Mr V your $9 BB was covered by mine a $20/1 shot ...HAPPY GALAXY you watch it nxt start ..!! Just like HEAVENS KEEP will bolt in on soft ground!! and if Sandy hadn't been bumped in race 6 she would of won too paid well $4.70 cheers Rob!
    1 point
  39. Midget

    Terry Moseley

    And a marvellous bloke he is, modest, professional, an absolute gentleman and a credit to his profession and this industry .
    1 point
  40. Jack, thanks for the competitive match on the day. Double B's can come in handy :). Sincere congratulations to the Chiefs on a magnificent win. Fellow Stags, i'm reminded of a once successful coach's positive mantra that went something like " With Clear Eyes, Full Hearts, Ya can't Lose " :). It will turn around for us ... commencing this coming weekend. Hurricanes be aware :). Cheers.
    1 point
  41. Ya right are ya? And how long do you reckon it would take to get fields loaded and races underway? And how do you think owners of well behaved and already loaded horses will be feeling while these 'equestrian ladies' bugger about trying to coax some mongrel into line? Two hours later we will still be waiting. Like a lot in the industry the starting gate attendants generally do a wonderful job in at times dangerous circumstances. Well done guys the country over.
    1 point
  42. Yeah perhaps the Te Akau Stud sponsored stable attendant - great idea! Then perhaps a clerk of the course from the same stable, why not throw in a judge sponsored by the stable as well?
    1 point
  43. barryb

    UK Racing Selections

    28/01/2016 Southwell (AW) sou R02 4 Jaarih $5.50
    1 point
  44. If the festival sale doesn't see you obtain an adequate galloper there is always the option of jumping the fence and going to the standardbred sale, could call it cubesmobile and be about as cheap to run as a V8 kingswood
    1 point