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Just watching Karaka and huge ups for Steve's auctioneering skills. Best around by a long way.

Great call Jefferson He talked us into a horse we never in a million of years would've got involved in. Best sales pitch I've ever had - and the most fun. We've since won races (including a group 3), raced at Ellerslie/Riccarton and Trentham in the Cup carnivals, and most importantly had a lot of fun and met some great people.And Rogie will always take a phone call and have a chat and organise tickets for us, get beers etc etc - and I am a tiny owner compared to most of his. Genuine champion bloke

Rogie could go head to head with all on this site and would come out streets ahead of most and for the few that could logically debate with him, would at least come out even. He has achieved just about everything possible within this industry, has huge respect, wears his heart on his sleeve, has got more new participants into racing than almost anyone else. He is flamboyant, expressive, fun, maybe at times a little extravagant, but a dumb man he is most definitely not. We could do with a few more Rogie's, well done that man.

Steve Davis is an auctioneering genius, if I am selling he is the only one I want and if I am buying I want him locked in the toilet!! The man can extract money out of wallets easier than a beautiful naked 20+ year old young lady holding a cold six pack!!

Aidan Rodley tripped over the main electrical cord hurridly changing into his shorts getting ready for happy hour!!

It will help overall in getting owners back into racing because stakes filter down to more earnings for first to fourth. It will also make it more lucrative for smaller stables and those hobby trainers to get more involved that want to own and train because the chances of them actually making some sort of payback or living from it is increased. If you can't encourage the grass roots to grow then you have to continually add fodder for the top feeders - no economy can survive like that so what will happen is that you will only get big stables providing runners and eventually as those horses move up the ranks, they will move to greener pastures like Aussie and Asia.

Well said Jefferson couldn't agree more.Has put a huge amount in to racing and hasn't finihed yet. Not many of his generation left and we need plenty more like him to keep the industry going. I dear any of his detractors to achieve what he has done.

Never forget that two types of people buy horses. 1. Those who add value to sell them, or their progeny, again, i.e. trainers and breeders. 2. Those with discretionary income who like to spend it on luxuries, i.e. art, boats, helicopters, horses, silicone assisted blondes, or all of the above. Every sale will be underpinned by either of the above, and if it's an irrational or inexplicable sale you'll normally find it's driven by those in the latter group.

From my observations, Michael Wallace is proving with time to be very astute at not only stock selection but also in his understanding what makes the industry and the players tick. Put yourself in his shoes here and consider this specific situation from his business perspective as a trusted agent. He has shown his client a filly that he really likes and before she goes into the ring he has done the total sell on why this client should be interested in buying her. The filly goes in the ring and the client who has considerable resource and a vision of what he wants, will not let anyone else own her at this stage. If you get two of these guys on one horse as a seller you are in business (or one buyer and a vendor with big balls). The final price is not Michael's decision, he almost certainly did not value her at the final selling price and he can only give his client advice then take instruction for the bidding. Unlike most of us, the money is sometimes not the prime object in these cases. Michael is astute, ambitious, has a rapidly growing business and is obviously well regarded by some big hitters. All power to him (no pun intended!). Regards the Frankel colt, we should remember that these guys are bidding with a different currency to the rest of us. It is called international stallion income. They are paying huge amounts for colts carrying new bloodlines, paying for them with money earned from their own stallion income (Fastnet Rock etc, ) so "apples for apples". It appears they have syndicated the risk and if he shows anything at all or is unraced they will earn back the cost easily in time. From a business aspect it is a low risk no brainer for the purchasers. If a racing syndicator took him on, he is paying with hard earned dollars although potential returns are considerable, the risk is considerably higher. I can't wait to see the future Derby and Guineas fields chock full of all these high priced Savabeel colts. That is where there is going to be some big winners and losers from this sale. I think with respect Huey, that this is when your comment about the value in the purchase of the horse immediately after the Frankel may become more prophetic.

Yes was an interesting buy, I guess the claim will be as a residual family as a mare but then who are the Chinese going to sell all their stock back to if they aren't buying them and are sellers instead in a decade? I can't get my head around the Frankel that money for a 1st season sire who hasn't had a runner yet best looking Frankel colt doesn't mean much if they aren't any good, from a sire line that hasn't set the world on fire down under .Sold for more than twice the price of the best Fastnet colt in the sale a stallion whose left in excess of 20 G1 winners .Hopefully he is heading up north. I can't help but wonder if the better horse was bought by a very astute buyer immediately after the Frankel went through the ring.

No I don't Biff, & judging by your South Island one then I would say you are very astute at figuring out who is worth placing a horse with. Like a lot of things in this world price is often a poor indicator of the performance of something. More must come into the equation that $.

Plenty Shad, if I was to send one down, and I jolly well might, maybe a certain lady trainer at Riccarton, she does well, better than well.

Baz, they could be up shit creek without a paddle and still play us off a break, their situation came about due to internal issues, The Brisbane Racing Club for instance, however even with all the kak happening they still race for 50, 60k and even if the heavens open and God swallows them, they'll still race for heaps more than us, and pay the owners up to 1k to start and pay the jock and turn on a wonderful spread in the owners bar........as for VIC, don't start me, Moonee Valley are the benchmark, the owners experience there is world class, ATC are way behind, but still a country mile in front of here, and as I have said on here until my nose bled, look after the owner and he'll look after you.......give him an incentive to race a horse and he'll race two, you burn him [like these clowns here are doing] and fields will eventually collapse.

I will definitely be buying at least one of each at the Select Sale, what type yet to be considered. Will leave that final decision to the day.

Geoff collected $170 from his $50 investment - top effort. With returns like that, the Blues might want to recruit him - oh wait ....... As well as recycling the $50, Geoff has kindly offered to put $45 of his profit into the prize pool for LGL III. That gives us a total prize pool of $250 - watch this space.

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CUBES BETS FOR TODAY Meeting 6 Race 1 $10 each way horse 7 Skills Meeting 6 Race 6 $40 each way horse 3 Southern Raider ( good luck Cubes) $10 quinella 2 Rosheen & 3 Southern Raider

We can't all be drivers such as yourself John but I have watched enough races in my time to know that when a trailer comes off the back of the leader well before the passing lane instead of waiting for it generally it means they are traveling well better than the leader. Now I'm sure jay must have had a fair idea the trailer was travelling better than he was and was always going to out sprint his charge so rather than hitting the horse when a difference was not going to be made he waited until the use of the whip helped hold a horse he could hold out with a bit of use with stick.

Qld racing is not the greatest example is it Biff?. I thought there racing was in the financial shit and a bloody shambles or have I got that wrong?.

No BB posted then no BB awarded so some minor adjustments might need to be made to the score. Thanks to Ian, Brian, Maria and of course John for their updates. I will be home in 24 hours or so, so if you have a query please submit now. From a quick glance it would appear that The Manawatu Turbos have become the initial holders of the RC Shield with a 4-1 margin and a superior aggregate to the other side to win by that scoreline - the Kauri Kats. The Hurricanes will be the first challengers this coming weekend, still recovering from a Magpie attack which defeated them despite some impressive personal scores.

No accident and not engineered, it is all about what letter the catalogue starts it and I am sure they and NZB would not have wanted him there but that is how it worked out because of where the catalogue was due to automatically start this year. There was no way to move it.

Cubity for the mighty , mighty Baabaas Just a little bit of good old-fashioned come from behind luck to you Brian (we only have 1 same pick out of six) But seriously... Race 8...#3 , #14 Race 9...#4 , #6 BB Race 10...#2 , #11 Thanks to scorer and organiser......

Race-10 05 Mighty Like $28-20 Q 03/05/$67-20 Turbo type finish from Punter(Mooseman)Pete ensured a comfortable victory as Mighty Like sailed down the outside to Deny the Chiefs victory, I have credited Punter Pete with a Best Bet in the last although not posted in the selection, as if I remember rightly if you don't post a BB it goes on the last race? feel free to adjudicate here PJ Turbos -04 $1011-90 Chiefs 1 $524-80 Punter(Mooseman)Pete $639-20 Grant $234-00 Jason $75-20 Catalano $79-00 Mooseman $183-40 Sylvia $158-80 Rosina $61-00 Jack $53-00 Mike $53-00 Ian 0.000000000000000 and some All results interim until confirmation from the Mighty PJ Congrats Turbo's and the transfer fee of the Moose has gone through the roof Later

Interim totals: (subject to PJ blessing) Magpies (3 points) vs Hurricanes (2 points): Congratulations to the Magpies who ran out 3-2 winners in a high scoring match. Both teams earn a team profit bonus and the Canes earn a second bonus point for a higher team aggregate. Man of the Match for the Magpies was Ray ($557) with strong efforts from Mike C and Sharyn getting them across the line. Maria makes a statement on debut for the Canes with three winners today (including a best bet in the last) and an aggregate of $829. HURRICANES 2 MAGPIES 3 2085.00 1379.40 Hesi 235.80 Sharyn 265.80 John 502.20 Ray 557.00 Richard 198.60 Mike C 325.00 Cam 319.00 Murray 92.80 Maria 829.40 Tracy 138.80

Welcome to the Canes Maria! Wow, three from three today and a $28 best bet. Team aggregate over $2,000 and we still lost. Well done Magpies. Suspect we might have beaten most other teams

ooh thank you.. I'll recheck the postings Right you are... Sharyn posted late to advise that Murray had a BB in Race 9 of the comp.. not Mike.. I will correct it instantaneously ..

Done!

Ok can you put in the last for p pete 5,13 R10 (r7 caul) please

The Chiefs have 2 chances in the last to secure victory Durendal or Tried and Tired

R9-06 Sword of Light $6-10 Q 06/07 $52-70 Turbos-03 $447-90 Chiefs-02 $524-80 Grant with a BB for the Chiefs who extends his lead over an AWOL Punter Pete, but it's Rosina who see's the light and send the 4 man Turbo's into the lead Punter Pete $75-20 Grant $234-00 Jason $75-20 Catalano $79-00 Mooseman $183-40 Sylvia $158-80 Rosina $61-00 Jack $53-00 Mike $53-00 Ian $0.00

thanks Maria - yes Peter is right - I have to work to fuel my betting habits. Time for a quick look on here but not time for updates. Will update after last match but bit stuck for now.

I can quickly check the Canes / Magpies if that's the case and I'll post an update as soon as.

Race-08 05 Cohesion $5-30 Q-05/07 $153-70 Turbos 02 $386-80 Chiefs 03 $402-80 Moose and Mike on the mark for the Turbos ........Jack reply's for the Chief's with Moose passing Sylvia Mike going ahead of Ian the turbos pull 2 back but still trail 2-3 as jack goes ahead of Rosina.......no sign of Punter Petes selection would someone from the Turbos like to post some selections? Punter Pete $75-20 Grant $112-00 Jason $75-20 Catalano $79-00 Mooseman $183-40 Sylvia $158-80 Rosina $0.00 Jack $53-00 Mike $53-00 Ian 0.00

Race 8---5 $53.00 Q---- BLUES3 v2 BARBARIANS $92.80 ~~ Geoff $198.00 ~~ Kay $130.40 ~~ Gordy $64.00 ~~ Steve $85.80 ~~ Howie $53.00 ~~ Rees $229.00 ~~ Crucible $165.00 ~~ Mark $33.00 ~~ Brian $119.00 ~~ Cubes $571.00 ~~ BLUES $599.00 ~~ BARBS GOOD LUCK EVERYONE

Desperate times.... R1: 1/3 B/B R2: 1/4 [6] R3: 2/11 [3] Apologies to me Ferdie teammates for my woeful showing in this round. Will do better!

Agree It will be a great Superbowl.. I think John Elway will be instrumental in helping with the Broncos game plan to counter Cam Newton. He was a similar build and skillset of QB so his analysis of Newton's play and possible defence strategies would be an interesting read for sure.

8. 2-14 9. 14-17 10. 2-3 BB Thanks to John and PJ An even bigger thanks to the denver broncos for knocking Tom Brady and the patriots out of the nfl playoffs.

We'll probably buy a weanling from the May sale, or from a sale in Oz, we need a colt as we only have one colt here, he needs a mate, a fight club buddy, our paddocks are full of sheilas.......young and old!

Once upon a time is an Indian village, there lived three squaws. Two squaws had young sons who were very overweight. The first squaw, whose son weighed 150lbs, always placed her son on a bear hide near a pine grove; the second squaw, whose son also weighed 150lbs, put her son on a moose hide in the shade of a large oak tree; but the third squaw, who was expecting the birth of her first son, always rested on a hippopotamus hide beside a babbling brook. Her weight? 300lbs To this day, mathematicians give credit to these women and their children for proving the Pythagorean Theorem, because you see: The squaw of the hippopotamus is equal to the sons of the squaws of the other two hides. Midget, you can quote Pyhtagoras, Alchimedes, Newton, Thales or Bigollo it doesn't matter, Raghu did not move out, meander, shepherd or even cartwheel to dictate It's Ben Again's line. Raghu followed IBA out as described in my initial post yesterday at 8:45am and as Leggy rightly stated simply moved into space that IBA had already left. I will repeat again, there was no protest from any of the connections of IBA, nor one lodged by the stewards relating to any interference by Raghu into IBA. Nor was there by No More Tears connections regarding Raghu and importantly only protesting against IBA. Normally if a decision is controversial there is plenty written on social media. It has been very quiet in this case, the Consensus here on this thread has exonerated Raghu from any blame. You have your view, which you are entitled to and put your case forward supporting that view but it has not been strong enough to dissuade me from mine, nor it appears others advocating the opposite to you. I believe I am correct, you believe you are. As I stated above, we will have to agree to disagree on this particular case.

R8 - 1/2 (14). R9 - 3/4 (17). R10 - 3/11 (2). All The Best Gordy, Thanks PJ/Scorers, Good Punting All. Go The BaaBaa's. Steve.

It would be amusing if it didn't make you want to puke............

You can just hear Glenda and Co saying "See, we told you things are apples Minister...now just leave us alone and we might invite you back again next year.....now pass the bubbles ta...."

Yes he will probably be thinking to himself today as he scoffs the finest tucker at Karaka how well the industry is going under his stewardship. Million dollar races last night and millions of dollars being spent at the sale today - gee things could not be much better in the game could they? No wonder he has that stupid grin on his face

I see that the O'Sullivan/Scott stable is 27th on the trainers' list for races won so far this season, with 1 winner for every 15.78 starters. Last season the stable finished 6th with a winner every 6.43 starters. The season before that they finished 15th with a winner every 7.03 starters. If they don't up their current winners to starters performance they'll be out of business before their 3 cobalt cases are resolved.

Other than the big one, Tony Pike's stable did everything they were expected to do and more. In the big one I was thrilled for Stephen and the two CD babies.

Unless someone has something to hide..........Shaun's on the button, transparency for all.

Any idea of the readings in the NZ cases? I thought Shaun Ritchie had a good idea a while back on Weigh In about publishing the results for all to see like they do the TC02 results. You'd perhaps think with a suggestion like that there is more to it than meets the eye.

So true... Along with the OBVIOUSLY made up story of his staff member giving him 7x the amount of hoof powder they were supposed to, and this story took how long to come out after everything's that happened?? Along with him trying to claim he had never heard of cobalt... LMAO!!! The rumours had been doing the rounds WELL before these positive swabs... I was well aware it was being used by certain people before the start of 2014... Cmon Moody, we aren't that stupid buddy.

The readings were 380 and 410, about double the limit. Also Trump, charges were issued July last year in that case with the investigation complete about 9 months after the race concerned. The NZ cases have now gone well beyond that.

Crickey biff, your a tough rooster. Wouldn't read to much into Mr Rodgersons comments. But dont be to tough on a man that has just about achieved everything possible in racing. Has put a huge amount into racing over the years.