Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted May 9, 2018 Going the dual coded way just like his brother did earlier in buying a thoroughbred weanling by Tavistock this week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,719 Report post Posted May 10, 2018 Plenty of others have also, in fact quite a large number of harness trainers are involved. Not knowing the arrangement Mark has entered into - i.e. is he just in ownership or will he be actually training it like Rogie. Mark does train sbreds for Jimmy Gibbs so could be a tit for tat deal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R 260 Report post Posted May 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, eljay said: Plenty of others have also, in fact quite a large number of harness trainers are involved. Not knowing the arrangement Mark has entered into - i.e. is he just in ownership or will he be actually training it like Rogie. Mark does train sbreds for Jimmy Gibbs so could be a tit for tat deal. Hi Eljay, Reading the article on the Allstars website, Mark is going to train it. Cheers. Robert. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,719 Report post Posted May 10, 2018 With all his flitting around both here and stralia hope he can find the time to do it justice. Which brings up an interesting discussion item - which trainers have or do train tbreds and which ones have an interest in a tbred but not trained by them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted May 10, 2018 26 minutes ago, eljay said: With all his flitting around both here and stralia hope he can find the time to do it justice. Which brings up an interesting discussion item - which trainers have or do train tbreds and which ones have an interest in a tbred but not trained by them? I'm gonna start the ball rolling Eljay. Tim Butt ,Barry Purdon,Graeme Anderson,,Amber Hoffman,Leda Beck,John Parsons, Todd Mitchell and Rogey have all trained both codes at one stage or another. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,719 Report post Posted May 10, 2018 From way back - Wolfie Fartoomuch 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraklis 2,231 Report post Posted May 10, 2018 Yup and Irwin Berhns, not sure if Rob did too...... Cheers Iraklis Fartoomuch 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 1,095 Report post Posted May 10, 2018 I see Rogy as a galloping trainer who got into harness for a while, bought some expensive ones too and had some success but he's rather the exception than the rule. Big Bar had a horse or two a year or two ago but I don't think he ever had a winner. Todd hasn't done badly. Depends how far Mark P wants to take this and, as he stays with Rogy when in the north maybe it's tit for tat there. He does have a close relationship with Jim Gibbs but I really wouldn't like to see it come to Ruakaka. Or perhaps I should say, there are plenty of places I'd send a horse before trucking it north. No problem with a bit of variety though not many can do both well. Fartoomuch 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikecity 749 Report post Posted May 10, 2018 Don Dwyer Fartoomuch 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Piper 408 Report post Posted May 10, 2018 The older trainers back in time quite often rode work with their standardbreds. Now the jogging machine is used as it is a numbers and time game. Guess that is where the Monte originated from. Fartoomuch 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R 260 Report post Posted May 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Blue said: I see Rogy as a galloping trainer who got into harness for a while, bought some expensive ones too and had some success but he's rather the exception than the rule. Big Bar had a horse or two a year or two ago but I don't think he ever had a winner. Todd hasn't done badly. Depends how far Mark P wants to take this and, as he stays with Rogy when in the north maybe it's tit for tat there. He does have a close relationship with Jim Gibbs but I really wouldn't like to see it come to Ruakaka. Or perhaps I should say, there are plenty of places I'd send a horse before trucking it north. No problem with a bit of variety though not many can do both well. Hi Blue, I am sure David Walsh works for the Allstars, so this might be the reasoning behind the dabble into thoroughbreds . Cheers. Robert. Thejanitor and Fartoomuch 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 1,495 Report post Posted May 11, 2018 On 10/05/2018 at 6:10 AM, Fartoomuch said: Going the dual coded way just like his brother did earlier in buying a thoroughbred weanling by Tavistock this week. Good choise of Sire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted May 11, 2018 1 hour ago, globederby12 said: Good choise of Sire Indeed he is Globe and this will be an interesting exercise for Mark and the stable. Given his ability to pick top horses from standardbred yearling sales at not huge prices the outcome of this venture will be interesting to say the least. Plus, he has plenty of friends in the gallops game to assist or get advice off. Pete Williams/Rogey to name a few. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,704 Report post Posted May 11, 2018 22 minutes ago, Fartoomuch said: Given his ability to pick top horses from standardbred yearling sales Bound to get some good ones when you grab 50 a year! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maple h 26 Report post Posted May 11, 2018 On 5/10/2018 at 2:46 PM, Fartoomuch said: I'm gonna start the ball rolling Eljay. Tim Butt ,Barry Purdon,Graeme Anderson,,Amber Hoffman,Leda Beck,John Parsons, Todd Mitchell and Rogey have all trained both codes at one stage or another. Add in Brian gliddon, Brian court, chris butt, Malcolm price . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasman man 11 979 Report post Posted May 11, 2018 Michelle Wallis , Ron Langford ,LeoMolloy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee270744 684 Report post Posted May 11, 2018 3 hours ago, chevy86 said: Bound to get some good ones when you grab 50 a year! Isn't that 250 counting the older ones? chevy86 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie 1,027 Report post Posted May 11, 2018 On 10/05/2018 at 7:49 PM, Double R said: Hi Blue, I am sure David Walsh works for the Allstars, so this might be the reasoning behind the dabble into thoroughbreds . Cheers. Robert. Yep I think you are correct.What a partnership that could be.Trainer Mark,Strapper David,Jockey Chris J Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted May 11, 2018 13 hours ago, chevy86 said: Bound to get some good ones when you grab 50 a year! His selection strike rate is well beyond others and it shows in his premiership record. Of course he will have slow ones if that's your point but don't they all Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee270744 684 Report post Posted May 11, 2018 On 5/10/2018 at 7:49 PM, Double R said: Hi Blue, I am sure David Walsh works for the Allstars, so this might be the reasoning behind the dabble into thoroughbreds . Cheers. Robert. I think David works for NZ Thoroughbred looking after jockeys, hasn't been at All-Stars for a while. Double R 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted May 11, 2018 Given Mark's trifecta in the Nevele R fillies final the percentages will pay for the new horse with a bit to spare Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,704 Report post Posted May 12, 2018 10 hours ago, Fartoomuch said: Of course he will have slow ones if that's your point but don't they all Yep. and I'm picking he has more wastage than most. Lucky he has all those owners with deep pockets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted May 12, 2018 1 hour ago, chevy86 said: Yep. and I'm picking he has more wastage than most. Lucky he has all those owners with deep pockets. I totally disagree with you re Wastage but each to their own. Its easy to go after the AS team but their results speak for themselves. They obviously cull but usually only to save their owners further expense. That comes from their owners not me. Iraklis and Thejanitor 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
