kdt 291 Report post Posted April 25, 2018 Agree or disagree he knew the rules esp in HK https://www.punters.com.au/news/nash-rawiller-banned-for-15-months_168313/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestbets 206 Report post Posted April 25, 2018 I guess most humans are so greedy. It isn' like he needs the money. I don' rob banks cause I know one day I might be caught an I don' like the penalties that might follow. Enjoy your holiday. Do the crime do the time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dockers 200 Report post Posted April 25, 2018 I honest don't get the mentality of these jockeys. I could understand a jockey trying to get away with having a punt if he was only getting a few rides but these guys. E.g. Munce, McDonald and Rawhiller plus many others. Do you think these guys are addicted to the punt or just dumb ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1 361 Report post Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, kdt said: Agree or disagree he knew the rules esp in HK https://www.punters.com.au/news/nash-rawiller-banned-for-15-months_168313/ it wasn't long ago everyone was saying McDonald was hard done by puh lease Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzim 338 Report post Posted April 25, 2018 I really don’t have a problem with a jockey backing the horse their riding,as least they will give it every chance to win. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted April 25, 2018 Just seems so foolish they know the rules, yet they still try to go around them.... he could end up in the same jailhouse Munce was in too... scary times. How much money do they really need....very silly with a young family too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzim 338 Report post Posted April 25, 2018 I agree it is a stupid thing to do.Greed can be an evil thing.The rule it self just seems silly to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdt 291 Report post Posted April 26, 2018 There is no word yet but he may still face a criminal charge. What the HKJC decide has no bearing on what the criminal authorities may or may not do. Is it still the ICAC? if so they can be very dogmatic and ruthless in their pursuit of justice , ask Chris Munce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdt 291 Report post Posted April 26, 2018 Just found this. Not looking too good for Nash https://www.justhorseracing.com.au/general-news/snippets/nash-rawiller-reportedly-detained-leaving-hong-kong/446716 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dockers 200 Report post Posted April 26, 2018 Just stupidity. Surely the Munce example was a template for any jockey thinking about doing this. Just crazy. No one knows what happens behind close doors I suppose and who has got there claws into these jockeys. Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdt 291 Report post Posted April 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Dockers said: Just stupidity. Surely the Munce example was a template for any jockey thinking about doing this. Just crazy. No one knows what happens behind close doors I suppose and who has got there claws into these jockeys. Just found this Dockers. Makes for interesting reading and again begs the question why he did it. http://www.scmp.com/sport/racing/article/2143450/state-art-technology-and-50bn-betting-exchange-how-jockey-club-caught Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
berzerk 107 Report post Posted April 26, 2018 An interesting topic. Chris Munce's criminal charge was concocted as though in being a jockey his information, and then betting, was insider trading. Bit of a stretch really, especially given 13 other runners! And surely the trainer is privy to far more information. The above betting exchange article is complete nonsense. The exchange exposes likely non-triers. Which begs the question of how well it is actually policed, with regards to a certain jockey who shell remain nameless. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted April 26, 2018 Nash Rawiller detained trying to leave Hong Kong Nash Rawiller. Photo: Darryl Sherer. Article Author Clinton Payne 26 April 2018 12 Comments Australian jockey Nash Rawiller is believed to have been detained trying to leave Hong Kong International Airport on Wednesday. Long-time Hong Kong-based Australian racing journalist Alan Aitken, who works for the South China Morning Post, told RSN on Wednesday of the rumours. "The full details will probably only come out if this gets to court and when I say if I probably mean when,” Aitken said. “Because probably the latest on Nash is that the rumours that he was picked up at the airport trying to leave Hong Kong yesterday evening, we suspect to be quite true. "Nobody's really had contact with him, certainly hope for his sake that's wrong, but if that's the case then the ICAC (Independent Commission Against Corruption) has got involved and given that the Jockey Club has found him guilty on charges that mirror the kind of charges that Chris Munce was up against, I would think we could be looking at a very similar outcome." On Wednesday, Rawiller was found guilty of betting related charges by the Hong Kong Jockey Club and disqualified for 15-months. Hong Kong’s ICAC can retain an individual for up to 48 hours for investigation. He was found guilty of “having an interest in a bet” and “receiving a benefit for providing tips”. Rawiller’s penalty is the longest handed down to a jockey in Hong Kong since fellow Australian rider Chris Munce was sentenced to a 30 month jail term after being convicted in 2007 of taking bribes in exchange for racing tips. After an initial stint in a Hong Kong jail, Munce returned to Australia where he served the remainder of his penalty. In 2008, News Limited racing writer Ray Thomas interviewed Munce who revealed he was in a cell with 30 other inmates, sleeping two to a bed on hard, wooden boards, immersed in Hong Kong's oppressive, suffocating heat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash Rawiller detained trying to leave Hong Kong Nash Rawiller. Photo: Darryl Sherer. Article Author Clinton Payne 26 April 2018 12 Comments Australian jockey Nash Rawiller is believed to have been detained trying to leave Hong Kong International Airport on Wednesday. Long-time Hong Kong-based Australian racing journalist Alan Aitken, who works for the South China Morning Post, told RSN on Wednesday of the rumours. "The full details will probably only come out if this gets to court and when I say if I probably mean when,” Aitken said. “Because probably the latest on Nash is that the rumours that he was picked up at the airport trying to leave Hong Kong yesterday evening, we suspect to be quite true. "Nobody's really had contact with him, certainly hope for his sake that's wrong, but if that's the case then the ICAC (Independent Commission Against Corruption) has got involved and given that the Jockey Club has found him guilty on charges that mirror the kind of charges that Chris Munce was up against, I would think we could be looking at a very similar outcome." On Wednesday, Rawiller was found guilty of betting related charges by the Hong Kong Jockey Club and disqualified for 15-months. Hong Kong’s ICAC can retain an individual for up to 48 hours for investigation. He was found guilty of “having an interest in a bet” and “receiving a benefit for providing tips”. Rawiller’s penalty is the longest handed down to a jockey in Hong Kong since fellow Australian rider Chris Munce was sentenced to a 30 month jail term after being convicted in 2007 of taking bribes in exchange for racing tips. After an initial stint in a Hong Kong jail, Munce returned to Australia where he served the remainder of his penalty. In 2008, News Limited racing writer Ray Thomas interviewed Munce who revealed he was in a cell with 30 other inmates, sleeping two to a bed on hard, wooden boards, immersed in Hong Kong's oppressive, suffocating heat.
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted April 26, 2018 Interestingly, I don't think Muncie was betting. He was I believe, passing on information about "which horses were working best at trackwork". Rawiller's charge was for betting. They are very tough on lawbreakers there and I don't blame Nash for trying to leave HK ASAP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelda kratchanova 2 501 Report post Posted April 26, 2018 Boris sayed a ferry or yacht into international waters woul,d have been better , n0? but idoits should remember innocent till proven guilty n0? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdt 291 Report post Posted September 13, 2018 He is free to go so good news for him https://www.punters.com.au/news/rawiller-avoids-corruption-charges_172359/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted September 13, 2018 From article it's not clear what operation he was betting with but CEO pushed the fact they monitor illegal sites ,some laying to lose. . I can spot the reason they get bit bent out of shape over it. I can think of a few basic reasons this might go belly up , into an illegal bookie for big coin not good for health or integrity or laying your mount to lose likewise not flash. I assume he got a contract and signed it , I assume it says don't bet , not rocket science , don't bet fella. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...