ngatimaru 51 Report post Posted February 21, 2018 Me & my Bro have a mare. Nobility. Batchelor Duke x Palmy a Danehill mare In foal to Super Easy. was wondering if you guy's had any thoughts about a mating Stallion for next season ? Our finances stretch between a Quickie through the hedge to about $7000 Interested in your replies... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skoozi 38 Report post Posted February 21, 2018 What is the mare like physically ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey 214 Report post Posted February 21, 2018 4 hours ago, ngatimaru said: Me & my Bro have a mare. Nobility. Batchelor Duke x Palmy a Danehill mare In foal to Super Easy. was wondering if you guy's had any thoughts about a mating Stallion for next season ? Our finances stretch between a Quickie through the hedge to about $7000 Interested in your replies... Agree with the physical question above, but on pedigree consider a saddlers wells or zabeel line horse - pick up on the no 5 family that b duke is from and he was known to do well with zabeel - Or i think dalghar may also work well. Have a look Breeder 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breeder 607 Report post Posted February 21, 2018 Given your mare is from a Danehill mare there would be a temptation to look for a suitable Danehill match but the stats do not suggest it is a great way to go. Here is a discussion on the Aussie site -- Thoroughbred Village http://forum.thoroughbredvillage.com.au/inbreeding-to-danehill_topic48874.html?SID=3091-5c48b7z9b568e4c7a8ba8283101852 One post , made in 2015 : Inbred to Danehill 2,881 Foals of Racing Age 1,245 Starters 546 Winners 28 Stakes winners That is 1% SW to Starters. No magic beans here! Agree with Dopey's approach. Look at Wrote, for example. BTW. If a Danehill line is going to work with your mare, then Super Easy was a good choice, on paper, because of the other lines it brings in. Dopey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngatimaru 51 Report post Posted February 22, 2018 19 hours ago, Dopey said: Agree with the physical question above, but on pedigree consider a saddlers wells or zabeel line horse - pick up on the no 5 family that b duke is from and he was known to do well with zabeel - Or i think dalghar may also work well. Have a look I like Dalghar with Miwaki X But he is just over budget. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomjr 43 Report post Posted February 22, 2018 3 hours ago, ngatimaru said: I like Dalghar with Miwaki X But he is just over budget. Puccini or Sweynesse? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruby 160 Report post Posted February 22, 2018 You've done the Danehill Cross with Super Easy - and as with thoroughbred village agree re the stats. Sweynesse gives you the Lohnro/Danehill cross that has worked well - he's a quality horse at a good fee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey 214 Report post Posted February 22, 2018 5 hours ago, ngatimaru said: I like Dalghar with Miwaki X But he is just over budget. Negotiate La Zip and ADM 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey 2,037 Report post Posted February 22, 2018 I'd be looking at Puccini or Complacent or the two sons of Street Cry at stud in NZ (Rageese/Telperion) with that budget. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngatimaru 51 Report post Posted February 23, 2018 Thanks Guys & Gals, Will look into it. Cheers RT. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... 226 Report post Posted February 23, 2018 Try and stay away from the double Danehill cross which overall doesnt have good stats. Good horses can come from this cross but the chances of this happening are reduced with the cross compared to without. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Zip 468 Report post Posted February 24, 2018 On 2/23/2018 at 6:18 AM, Huey said: I'd be looking at Puccini or Complacent or the two sons of Street Cry at stud in NZ (Rageese/Telperion) with that budget. Just my thoughts, I know Road to Rock has done well from limited opportunities here in NZ, but most of the good sons of Encosta are big, fast horses....and I’d rather go to Telperion than Rageese. I don’t think Rageese was particularly genuine...and as Telperion is a half to Kementari, it appears his dam is producing, and he’s $2k cheaper... Complacent is the best performed, best value young stallion in NZ.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngatimaru 51 Report post Posted February 24, 2018 Has anyone seen any of the Puccini foals yet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey 2,037 Report post Posted February 24, 2018 1 hour ago, ngatimaru said: Has anyone seen any of the Puccini foals yet? 1st season at stud 2017 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngatimaru 51 Report post Posted February 25, 2018 That would be a NO then. Sorry too many falls... Lloyd Vivian 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles 65 Report post Posted February 25, 2018 Since the Zabeel/Danehill cross seems to work well how about Verdi (Zabeel x Miss Opera), Danehill free? Yes I know the answer but he stands in the Sth Island (the other end of the world) but think about it, Sth Islanders have been sending their mares to Nth Island studs and yearlings to the sales for years! Agistment costs in the Sth are normally very reasonable as well. :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swynford 121 Report post Posted February 25, 2018 Zabeel served 129 Danehill mares and got 3 Group One winners. One of those mares produced 2 of those Group One winners so only 1 from the other 128. Considering that it was mixing the two best bloodlines in this part of the world I don't believe it was a good cross. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belinda 143 Report post Posted February 26, 2018 There is Niagara, he has Danehill but a couple of generations back. They are taking a wee bit of time but now they are 3 yos are starting to show something. He stands at $5000 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belinda 143 Report post Posted February 26, 2018 Or the 2 at Highview, Bullbars and Wrote, both free of Danehill and both come in under your budget Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruby 160 Report post Posted February 28, 2018 On 2/25/2018 at 9:57 PM, Swynford said: Zabeel served 129 Danehill mares and got 3 Group One winners. One of those mares produced 2 of those Group One winners so only 1 from the other 128. Considering that it was mixing the two best bloodlines in this part of the world I don't believe it was a good cross. What are the stats for Danehill over Zabeel mares? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngatimaru 51 Report post Posted February 28, 2018 On 21/02/2018 at 7:11 PM, skoozi said: What is the mare like physically ? She is sound about 16.1 no vices. Plain Bay Black socks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swynford 121 Report post Posted March 1, 2018 19 hours ago, Louise said: What are the stats for Danehill over Zabeel mares? Danehill served 15 Zabeel mares 14 runners 12 winners 1 Group One winner Darci Brahma. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngatimaru 51 Report post Posted March 7, 2018 Quote Thanks Caffers for your help. Have booked her into SWeynesse I'm keen on Puccini. But I wil look into bullbars& wrote. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngatimaru 51 Report post Posted March 7, 2018 Don't know what I did there. But she is Booked into Swenesse at Novara Park. Now have to choose a suitable agistment farm, as it is a Walk in Walk out Stud. As I in Wanganui, I cant do it. Any Suggestions ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Zip 468 Report post Posted March 7, 2018 26 minutes ago, ngatimaru said: Don't know what I did there. But she is Booked into Swenesse at Novara Park. Now have to choose a suitable agistment farm, as it is a Walk in Walk out Stud. As I in Wanganui, I cant do it. Any Suggestions ?? Club Med Lodge at Taupiri...they do a good job. Contact is Vicki Pascoe... Ruby 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
