Right first time 1,913 Report post Posted February 10, 2018 26 minutes ago, ivanthegreat said: I am happy to be corrected but I thought Hundred Pipers was trained by Jim Smith ? That 1970 meeting could of been the last appearance of Cardigan Bay at Alex Park ? ? at that stage he was in " retirement " at Pukututu Island. Driven down the straight by PTW. I think it took place after Double Cash's race maybe before the cup. Someone's bound to know for sure who trained Hundred Pipers. Almost 50 years have passed since I came across that name, so I'm by no means confident that Irvin Behrns was trainer. My gut instinct though is that Irvin is the one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,719 Report post Posted February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, ivanthegreat said: I am happy to be corrected but I thought Hundred Pipers was trained by Jim Smith ? That 1970 meeting could of been the last appearance of Cardigan Bay at Alex Park ? ? at that stage he was in " retirement " at Pukututu Island. Driven down the straight by PTW. I think it took place after Double Cash's race maybe before the cup. I think you will find Hundred Pipers started it's racing with Jim Smith then transferred to Behrns. In fact Irv drove it on quite a few occasions. Right first time and ivanthegreat 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,719 Report post Posted February 10, 2018 Hundred Pipers Name/Brand: Pedigree Progeny Dam Sire Progeny Sire Stats Bmare Stats Fertility Lifetime Dam Sire Lifetime (10Feb@18:30) 1966 Br h(exp) Scottish Command - Falsetto Lifetime: 68 starts, 11 wins, 10 seconds, 5 thirds, Lt $20,835 W $15,235 Best N.Z. mile rates by age: 2yo:Not raced 3yo:2-12.8 4yo+:2-05.2 Choose: All Performances Winning Performances Placed Performances All Races Official Races Major NZ Races Trials Races Workouts Races All Tracks Addington Raceway Alexandra Park (Auckland) Cambridge Raceway Claudelands Raceway (Hamilton) Gate Pa (Tauranga) Hawera Racecourse Hutt Park (Wellington) Kensington Park (Whangarei) New Plymouth (Grass) Te Kapua Park (Grass) (Stratford) Waipa Racecourse (Te Awamutu) Wanganui Racecourse Current Filter: Winning Performances in Official Races (Warning: At least 57 Official Races not yet available.) 1st Auckland 25 Oct 1972 1 mile 5 furlongs 12y Std (P) Driver: I M Behrns Trainer: I M Behrns Race Stake: $3,500.00 Won: $2,190.00 Time: 3-23.6 (2-05.2) 1st Hundred Pipers, 2nd Bella's Command, 3rd Command Performer, 4th Young Cardigan 1 length, 1/2 length, 1 3/4 lengths Starters: 13 1st Auckland 23 Sep 1972 1 mile 5 furlongs Std (P) Driver: I M Behrns Trainer: I M Behrns Race Stake: $3,500.00 Won: $2,190.00 Time: 3-25.6 (2-06.5) 1st Hundred Pipers, 2nd Young Cardigan, 3rd Bachelor Blue(1967), 4th Black Watch nose, 4 lengths, 3 1/2 lengths Starters: 9 1st Wellington 15 Jan 1972 1 1/4 miles Std (P) Driver: I M Behrns Trainer: I M Behrns Race Stake: $4,000.00 Won: $2,560.00 Time: 2-39.0 (2-07.2) 1st Hundred Pipers, 2nd Rauka Lad, 3rd Hoover(1965), 4th Robalan 1 length, long neck Starters: 10 1st Auckland 22 Dec 1971 1 mile 3 furlongs Std (P) Driver: I M Behrns Trainer: I M Behrns Race Stake: $3,000.00 Won: $1,875.00 Time: 2-52.6 (2-05.5) 1st Hundred Pipers, 2nd Hoover(1965), 3rd Young Cardigan, 4th False Dream 1 length, 3 1/2 lengths Starters: 14 1st NZ Metro 17 Nov 1971 1 1/4 miles Std (P) Driver: I M Behrns Trainer: I M Behrns Race Stake: $2,600.00 Won: $1,690.00 Time: 2-40.2 (2-08.1) 1st Hundred Pipers, 2nd Crystal John, 3rd Robert Mac(1967), 4th Royal Ascot 3 lengths, 1/2 length Starters: 15 1st NZ Metro 09 Nov 1971 1 mile 5 furlongs Std (P) Driver: I M Behrns Trainer: I M Behrns Race Stake: $2,250.00 Won: $1,465.00 Time: 3-28.6 (2-08.3) 1st Hundred Pipers, 2nd Bachelor Blue(1967), 3rd Pine Globe, 4th Mickey Dhu(1967) 1/2 length, 4 1/2 lengths Starters: 12 1st Auckland 27 Oct 1971 1 mile 5 furlongs Mob (P) Driver: I M Behrns Trainer: I M Behrns Race Stake: $1,700.00 Won: $1,065.00 Time: 3-26.4 (2-07.0) 1st Hundred Pipers, 2nd King's Court(1967), 3rd Dark Imp, 4th Silver Valley 3 1/2 lengths, 1/2 length Starters: 12 1st Wanganui 03 Oct 1970 1 1/4 miles Std (P) Driver: J E Smith Trainer: J E Smith Race Stake: $1,100.00 Won: $720.00 Time: 2-56.2 (2-20.9) 1st Hundred Pipers, 2nd Johnny's Imp, 3rd Scottish Cheer, 4th Hermano 1/2 length, 1 length Starters: 8 1st Wellington 12 Sep 1970 1 1/4 miles Std (P) Driver: J E Smith Trainer: J E Smith Race Stake: $1,150.00 Won: $730.00 Time: 2-42.6 (2-10.0) 1st Hundred Pipers, 2nd Rostrevor, 3rd Commandaway, 4th Rossini(1966) 1/2 length, 1 length Starters: 9 1st Northland 14 Feb 1970 1 1/2 miles Std (P) Driver: J E Smith Trainer: J E Smith Race Stake: $650.00 Won: $430.00 Time: 3-21.6 (2-14.4) 1st Hundred Pipers, 2nd Sleepy Frost, 3rd Caravelle(1963), 4th Riovander 5 lengths, 4 lengths Starters: 9 1st Wanganui 04 Oct 1969 9 furlongs Std (P) Driver: J E Smith Trainer: J E Smith Race Stake: $450.00 Won: $320.00 Time: 2-29.4 (2-12.8) 1st Hundred Pipers, 2nd Bedevilled, 3rd Windsor Gold(1963), 4th Ascender head, 7 lengths Right first time 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 3,995 Report post Posted February 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, eljay said: I think you will find Hundred Pipers started it's racing with Jim Smith then transferred to Behrns. In fact Irv drove it on quite a few occasions. eljay correct. Jim Smith won four races with him at 3 and 4 then Irvin Behrns trained him at 5 winning five races with him and driving him each time. He started 51 times in NZ before being exported to the States in 1972. ivanthegreat and Right first time 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 3,995 Report post Posted February 10, 2018 1 minute ago, gubellini said: eljay correct. Jim Smith won four races with him at 3 and 4 then Irvin Behrns trained him at 5 winning five races with him and driving him each time. He started 51 times in NZ before being exported to the States in 1972. Sorry I missed those last two wins! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right first time 1,913 Report post Posted February 10, 2018 Great stuff ...appreciate you very knowledgeable Racecafers clarifying like this, thanks Eljay and gubellini. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...