High Sparrow 702 Report post Posted January 4, 2018 Congratulations to John McInerney on his 10 winners at the dogs at Forbury yesterday. I'd hate to be paying the feed bill for the 170 dogs he trains (let alone accessing the food for them all - they probably eat the equivalent of a couple of horses or cows daily). I heard the commentators say John had 50 dogs entered at Forbury. I understand Lisa Cole has 120 dogs in her central districts team. Both must be huge operations. Think of the barking! But when I look at say six or seven dogs in some races coming from one kennel I do wonder about the sport increasingly being a 'numbers game' in many respects and the larger kennels effectively 'holding a mortgage' on the result. Personally, I still think Karen Walsh (with 26 dogs) is the best trainer in the country. Don't get me wrong - the big kennels put up the money and they put in the long hours and good luck to them but I was wondering what others thought of perhaps having no more than four dogs from any one kennel in a race - or is that just not feasible with the numbers the larger kennels have and wanting to give them all a run? Thoughts people? Eyespy and MiniJax 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbob 92 Report post Posted January 4, 2018 Greyhound racing is just a roulette wheel, does not matter how many dogs are trained by one trainer, punters just want a field The dogs are well over raced, look at the form of some of these fields, they are rubbish, 80% of the dogs dont chase properly or are injured most of the time But punters dont care, they just want a field, gary1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniJax 30 Report post Posted January 4, 2018 Well the larger kennels give smaller kennels less opportunities/of a chance to get a start and even win a race. I also think Karen Walsh is the best trainer. gazzac 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted January 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, MiniJax said: Well the larger kennels give smaller kennels less opportunities/of a chance to get a start and even win a race. I also think Karen Walsh is the best trainer. Can you explain that mini jax ? If you have a form dog it will get a start in front of any other if it’s in a small or big kennel ? And has the same chance as any to win . To be fair you only get out what you put in , and I’d say well done to all it’s a very trying game alltheway!!! and gary1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bus stop 230 Report post Posted January 4, 2018 I know in Australia a few years back an owner couldnt have more than 2 dogs in a race I think it was in the state of Victoria mainly to nullify the Wheeler domonince not sure if this rule still exists over there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe blogs 202 Report post Posted January 4, 2018 3 hours ago, High Sparrow said: Congratulations to John McInerney on his 10 winners at the dogs at Forbury yesterday. I'd hate to be paying the feed bill for the 170 dogs he trains (let alone accessing the food for them all - they probably eat the equivalent of a couple of horses or cows daily). I heard the commentators say John had 50 dogs entered at Forbury. I understand Lisa Cole has 120 dogs in her central districts team. Both must be huge operations. Think of the barking! But when I look at say six or seven dogs in some races coming from one kennel I do wonder about the sport increasingly being a 'numbers game' in many respects and the larger kennels effectively 'holding a mortgage' on the result. Personally, I still think Karen Walsh (with 26 dogs) is the best trainer in the country. Don't get me wrong - the big kennels put up the money and they put in the long hours and good luck to them but I was wondering what others thought of perhaps having no more than four dogs from any one kennel in a race - or is that just not feasible with the numbers the larger kennels have and wanting to give them all a run? Thoughts people? And why do you think Karen is the best trainer for She works for a big owner who has shit loads of cash gary1, modest mouse and Eyespy 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bus stop 230 Report post Posted January 4, 2018 Having the good vets behind you also helps and there is no malice behind that statement its just like the All Blacks having the right support behind the scenes is an advantage MiniJax 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoKnows 791 Report post Posted January 4, 2018 It would be interesting to see the breakdown of the McInerney winners for the north and South Island kennels, the Nth Island kennels hardly seem to get any winners, and often when some dogs go back down Sth after being in the Nth they grow an extra leg, I'd imagine they certainly don't make a profit up North. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe blogs 202 Report post Posted January 4, 2018 21 minutes ago, WhoKnows said: It would be interesting to see the breakdown of the McInerney winners for the north and South Island kennels, the Nth Island kennels hardly seem to get any winners, and often when some dogs go back down Sth after being in the Nth they grow an extra leg, I'd imagine they certainly don't make a profit up North. Well yoinwoukd know wouldn't you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted January 4, 2018 If they didn’t make a profit then they wouldn’t be doing it ? Plenty of dogs go north to other kennels and the same could be said . Just like plenty of imports come over and don’t make the grade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Joe blogs said: Well yoinwoukd know wouldn't you Nope coz who knows hasn’t trained a winner since Adam was a cowboy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe blogs 202 Report post Posted January 4, 2018 22 minutes ago, I know said: Nope coz who knows hasn’t trained a winner since Adam was a cowboy What ever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniJax 30 Report post Posted January 4, 2018 16 hours ago, Joe blogs said: And why do you think Karen is the best trainer for She works for a big owner who has shit loads of cash Gary’s Harding? Look at the strike rate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonkatime 323 Report post Posted January 4, 2018 15 hours ago, I know said: Nope coz who knows hasn’t trained a winner since Adam was a cowboy How is it relevant how many winners who knows may or may not have trained? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoKnows 791 Report post Posted January 5, 2018 14 minutes ago, tonkatime said: How is it relevant how many winners who knows may or may not have trained? I've never trained a winner in my life, as I'm not a greyhound trainer. That doesn't mean I'm not allowed an opinion. January so far the northern McInerney kennels have had 15 starters for 2 second placings. i will keep an eye out to see how they progress in the upcoming meetings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted January 5, 2018 21 hours ago, I know said: Can you explain that mini jax ? If you have a form dog it will get a start in front of any other if it’s in a small or big kennel ? And has the same chance as any to win . To be fair you only get out what you put in , and I’d say well done to all it’s a very trying game Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe blogs 202 Report post Posted January 5, 2018 3 hours ago, MiniJax said: Gary’s Harding? Look at the strike rate. Do you think any other people could train those dogs and have the same strike rate or only karen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicky47 27 Report post Posted January 5, 2018 Yes,Adrian Chalmers whom was involved with the breedings of Hardings dogs.But who cares,Karen does a fantastic job in placing the dogs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniJax 30 Report post Posted January 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Joe blogs said: Do you think any other people could train those dogs and have the same strike rate or only karen No. Definitely not Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted January 5, 2018 Still waiting mini jax Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe blogs 202 Report post Posted January 5, 2018 1 hour ago, MiniJax said: No. Definitely not What are you on dogrug 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniJax 30 Report post Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 6:57 PM, Joe blogs said: What are you on I’ll give u an example Joe Look at where Thrilling Wilson is now with N Udy. He hasn’t won a race just one minor placing. And that’s just one dog handed over.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alltheway!!! 640 Report post Posted January 6, 2018 3 hours ago, MiniJax said: I’ll give u an example Joe Look at where Thrilling Wilson is now with N Udy. He hasn’t won a race just one minor placing. And that’s just one dog handed over.. What about thrilling billy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted January 6, 2018 8 hours ago, MiniJax said: I’ll give u an example Joe Look at where Thrilling Wilson is now with N Udy. He hasn’t won a race just one minor placing. And that’s just one dog handed over.. Mini jax you still have not replyed to my post re big kennels small kennels why is this ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,865 Report post Posted January 6, 2018 31 minutes ago, I know said: Mini jax you still have not replyed to my post re big kennels small kennels why is this ? Enough trolling she does not have to reply to you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...