harewood 477 Report post Posted December 2, 2017 I was at GP last night and Laz won impressively under a hold. He was 2 and 3 seconds faster then the other two heats. I thought thats a very good effort and he is right on target. Today I read he broke the track record held by the great Im the Mighty Quinn set at the 2013 IDs. WOW! This puts the performance into even greater context. No horse has been able to foot it with Quinny around GP and Laz just took his record under a hold. This horse is just an outstanding staying animal. Not only does he just win he creates track records where ever he goes on any track. As Purdon said " He really won with a bit in hand and he really won well " AND "The key is getting through the heats and you couldn’t be happier with the way he has and the way he performed tonight.” Purdon has mapped Laz"s campaign to a tee and all he needs in the final is no interference. The draws will not matter. GO LAZ globederby12, Basil, Iraklis and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil 333 Report post Posted December 2, 2017 39 minutes ago, harewood said: Purdon has mapped Laz"s campaign to a tee and all he needs in the final is no interference. The draws will not matter. GO LAZ Yep, that's the way I see it too. May not happen of course, but if it does --- how many trainers have won successive Interdoms with *different* horses? I can't think of a NZ trainer in my lifetime, but maybe there's an Aussie who's done so? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harewood 477 Report post Posted December 2, 2017 12 minutes ago, Basil said: how many trainers have won successive Interdoms with *different* horses? An interesting stat. Can only fine one Bob Knight father of well known driver Vin Knight. 1988 with Our Maestro and 1989 with Jodies Babe. Our Mestro came second that year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted December 2, 2017 12 hours ago, harewood said: I was at GP last night and Laz won impressively under a hold. He was 2 and 3 seconds faster then the other two heats. I thought thats a very good effort and he is right on target. Today I read he broke the track record held by the great Im the Mighty Quinn set at the 2013 IDs. WOW! This puts the performance into even greater context. No horse has been able to foot it with Quinny around GP and Laz just took his record under a hold. This horse is just an outstanding staying animal. Not only does he just win he creates track records where ever he goes on any track. As Purdon said " He really won with a bit in hand and he really won well " AND "The key is getting through the heats and you couldn’t be happier with the way he has and the way he performed tonight.” Purdon has mapped Laz"s campaign to a tee and all he needs in the final is no interference. The draws will not matter. GO LAZ Not according to "our resident know it all" Harewood who suggests " I will give you the result of the final when the draw comes out " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil 333 Report post Posted December 2, 2017 12 hours ago, harewood said: An interesting stat. Can only fine one Bob Knight father of well known driver Vin Knight. 1988 with Our Maestro and 1989 with Jodies Babe. Our Mestro came second that year. Thanks! On the trotters, I could immediately think of a couple --- Tim Butt (Lyell and Take a Moment) and Mark Purdon (Pride of Petite and Buster Hanover) --- but the pacing side had me stumped. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted December 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Flagship uberalles said: I thought you were the resident expert/busy body "sunshine" Nah , leave that up to you and your mate. I only quoted what you said on this issue or are you in denial? It does make you sound kind of arrogant though IMHO. You have had a few chips about Laz and MP and others have picked you up on it . Im sure whatever the outcome you will be right somehow though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan B 41 Report post Posted December 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Flagship uberalles said: Just calling it as I see it.....not looking at it as Australia v nz....just as harness race. And when it comes down to it that's what it is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 1,495 Report post Posted December 3, 2017 18 hours ago, harewood said: An interesting stat. Can only fine one Bob Knight father of well known driver Vin Knight. 1988 with Our Maestro and 1989 with Jodies Babe. Our Mestro came second that year. That's the only one I can find or remember. J Binkskin drove Our Maestro in 1988 and J Babe driven by someone with the last name of Stewart in 1989. Successive years acheived with different pacers and trotters but not pacers .A bit of a rarity, but then to have two different horses good enough to win an Inter is probably something most trainers only dream of. Wish I was there Paul, seems to be more excitment surrounding this carnival than last year's. harewood 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harewood 477 Report post Posted December 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, globederby12 said: A bit of a rarity, but then to have two different horses good enough to win an Inter i Hopefully history it will be repeated again this year. Draws are out today. Yes Rees there is definitely more "talk" about the IDs this year. I think the standard is stronger with several of the WA horses now grown up and definite Group 1 contenders now. Plus with Lazarus over has pumped up the locals. globederby12 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil 333 Report post Posted December 3, 2017 Draw out. Lazarus gets 2. HFIM not so fortunate. http://www.harnesslink.com/International/TABtouch-Inter-Dominion-Grand-Final-draw Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackSprat 947 Report post Posted December 3, 2017 The scene is set for a great race. I don't think there's too much room for excuses from anyone now. Game on! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraklis 2,203 Report post Posted December 3, 2017 Hey Kotare, you were right the 'Draw Gods' were saving the best marble for final guess your odds were not far off after all...... Cheers Iraklis Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted December 3, 2017 On 12/2/2017 at 7:07 AM, Flagship uberalles said: As predicted iraklis........ I will give you the result of the final when the draw comes out! We wait with baited breath Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraklis 2,203 Report post Posted December 3, 2017 FTMuch, mate do we ever! I mean, I mean, I'll probably be a blithering wreck by the time it all rolls round Fri but hey I got a sneaky feeling bout The Faith, he came home with plenty in the tank too last Fri even after working round em (shit that Chris Lewis drove him like more than a good horse, not too bad for an aussie), just really like what I saw and Marks comments afterwards.....could we dare to think 1 n 2 in the final? could The Faith be so audacious as to come out and pull off a run em all down last stride win......I can't wait! GO THE MIGHTY KIWIS FOR THE FINALS YUSSSSSS!!!!!! Cheers Iraklis Fartoomuch, Thejanitor and harewood 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted December 3, 2017 31 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: Its your baited breath that worries me! I will give you the result of the final when the draw comes out! quote unquote FU. Maybe not?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted December 4, 2017 48 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: Give me a chance queen Mary.....I have to work for a living, have to look at it when I get home....not on the gravy train like a big shot like you are... ...Lazarus not paying $1.4 so no decent odds for you yet ftm! Im on at 2.31 for an intererst so dont know what your on about re 1.40 Heres the fixed odds market in Ozzie for those that are interested Runner TAB Prop No Win Place TIGER TARA 175801 4.40 1.45 LAZARUS 175802 2.10 1.14 VULTAN TIN 175803 101.00 14.33 SOHO TRIBECA 175804 6.00 1.66 GALACTIC STAR 175805 101.00 14.33 LENNYTHESHARK 175806 14.00 2.73 SAN CARLO 175807 35.00 5.53 SHANDALE 175808 151.00 21.00 HAVE FAITH IN ME 175809 41.00 6.33 CHICAGO BULL 175810 3.80 1.37 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 1,495 Report post Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Flagship uberalles said: Here you go sausage boy, Chicago bull Lazarus Soho Tribeca At least it will be on from the start, no cheap quarters and the predictable 55sec final quarter we have been seeing in n.z Flag, you must be taking the piss with the Bull winning from there. He is a good stayer but not that good. I can see him in the first 4 , but winning. Not a chance in my book. And dont right off Lenny the Shark for this final. Still Lazarus for me. 1rst. Lazarus 2nd Lenny the Shark 3rd. Tiger Tara Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackSprat 947 Report post Posted December 4, 2017 Tiger Tara leads, Chicago Bull trails him. Soho Tribeca crosses Lazarus, the Lennytheshark crosses him to hold the death. Lazarus 3 back in the running line, and then leads the 3 wide charge for the last lap and a half. Lenny wobbles off on the turn, Chicago Bull flies through and beats Tiger Tara, with Lazarus a gallant third, ahead of Soha Tribeca and Lenny in a dead heat for 4th. Daylight to the rest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 1,495 Report post Posted December 4, 2017 2 hours ago, JackSprat said: Tiger Tara leads, Chicago Bull trails him. Soho Tribeca crosses Lazarus, the Lennytheshark crosses him to hold the death. Lazarus 3 back in the running line, and then leads the 3 wide charge for the last lap and a half. Lenny wobbles off on the turn, Chicago Bull flies through and beats Tiger Tara, with Lazarus a gallant third, ahead of Soha Tribeca and Lenny in a dead heat for 4th. Daylight to the rest. Yeah who knows. One of the most intriguing finals for years. Can't wait. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted December 5, 2017 https://youtu.be/JvyLi_hyQTQ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harewood 477 Report post Posted December 5, 2017 On 12/4/2017 at 2:15 PM, JackSprat said: Tiger Tara leads, Kim Prentice on Soho Tribeca has said he is coming off the gate looking for the lead. Possibly has more early speed than Tiger T. GAME ON!!! Iraklis and globederby12 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackSprat 947 Report post Posted December 5, 2017 A fair bit of "gamesmanship" going on via the media. I doubt that any of the big players will be looking to drain too much from the tank early on in what will be a pretty torrid last two laps. I don't see Tiger Tara actually having too much trouble holding the early lead. A kamikaze mission from anyone in the first half lap will end their race, and they all know the money is divided up at the winning post 3 laps later, not on the first corner. Iraklis 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBlackie 128 Report post Posted December 6, 2017 Tell that to the Aussies! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harewood 477 Report post Posted December 6, 2017 10 hours ago, JackSprat said: not on the first corner. That will decide the fate of both Tiger T and Soho T. Neither can win of they dont lead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...