50 win no. 1 106 Report post Posted November 17, 2017 Once again absolutely murdered the chance of another favorite Caitlyn Clarke with his horse. He finished 100yards last after attacking for the lead. Phelan doesn't care where he finishes, and ruins the race as a consequence. What a disgrace, should be barred... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsvman 294 Report post Posted November 17, 2017 Caitlyn Clark had every chance to leave him parked yet decided to hand up without challenging some could say why did hand up so easily.? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayden Sefonte 42 Report post Posted November 17, 2017 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
50 win no. 1 106 Report post Posted November 18, 2017 I don't think I'm a troll. The attitude of people like Hayden Sefonte is why the in bred , mates and insider atmosphere is so strong in NZ harness racing. If they had a panel of stipes that analysed races and tactics and kept the sport HONEST, it would become mainstream. Instead ,unfortunately, the sport is populated by cousins, brothers, in laws and families all having a turn. That's why what could be a great sport is commonly known as Cheats on Seats... hedley 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
50 win no. 1 106 Report post Posted November 18, 2017 17 hours ago, hsvman said: Caitlyn Clark had every chance to leave him parked yet decided to hand up without challenging some could say why did hand up so easily.? Phelan would have just kept attacking. He doesn't care. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,711 Report post Posted November 18, 2017 You are mentioning names - why don't you reveal you name too - just to tidy the whole thing up. (signed) Long suffering losing punter - alias Lloyd Jury!! Hermione 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
50 win no. 1 106 Report post Posted November 18, 2017 15 minutes ago, eljay said: You are mentioning names - why don't you reveal you name too - just to tidy the whole thing up. (signed) Long suffering losing punter - alias Lloyd Jury!! Why would I mention my name and come under attack? I'm not married to my 1st cousin. These people are hillbillys. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted November 18, 2017 54 minutes ago, 50 win no. 1 said: I don't think I'm a troll. The attitude of people like Hayden Sefonte is why the in bred , mates and insider atmosphere is so strong in NZ harness racing. If they had a panel of stipes that analysed races and tactics and kept the sport HONEST, it would become mainstream. Instead ,unfortunately, the sport is populated by cousins, brothers, in laws and families all having a turn. That's why what could be a great sport is commonly known as Cheats on Seats... Where on earth does this cheats on seats come from nowadays? Dont believe Trainers Or drivers can afford to cheat and for what purpose. Dont believe that any trainer sets a horse up for a massive punt nowadays as it is difficult to get large amounts on unless you are a known losing punter! If you think that harness is full of cheaters then don’t be involved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonmccook1 2,359 Report post Posted November 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Brodie said: Where on earth does this cheats on seats come from nowadays? Dont believe Trainers Or drivers can afford to cheat and for what purpose. Dont believe that any trainer sets a horse up for a massive punt nowadays as it is difficult to get large amounts on unless you are a known losing punter! If you think that harness is full of cheaters then don’t be involved. so you are saying team driving doesn't happen anymore? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
50 win no. 1 106 Report post Posted November 18, 2017 11 minutes ago, Brodie said: Where on earth does this cheats on seats come from nowadays? Dont believe Trainers Or drivers can afford to cheat and for what purpose. Dont believe that any trainer sets a horse up for a massive punt nowadays as it is difficult to get large amounts on unless you are a known losing punter! If you think that harness is full of cheaters then don’t be involved. And there in a nutshell is harness racings biggest problem. "Don't be involved" . People like this imbecile have been involved for decades, and their attitude is " don't be involved". Oh my god, these people don't want discussion or accountability. The industry is struggling and people like Brodie have their heads stuck up where the sun don't shine. God , give me strength!!!!!! Fartoomuch 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise 554 Report post Posted November 18, 2017 1 hour ago, jasonmccook1 said: so you are saying team driving doesn't happen anymore? and you are? Examples of team driving would be good as Brodie is sometimes slated for not giving hard evidence. I can't remember the stipes in recent times nailing people for team driving. It is exceptionally difficult to prove that a drive is not beyond what is normally acceptable. 1 hour ago, Brodie said: Dont believe Trainers Or drivers can afford to cheat and for what purpose. Agree. Chucking away a livelihood or a passion for a possible few bucks is madness. Brodie would follow betting patterns closely and it is hard to see how one could make a huge amount of money without drawing attention to oneself. The game ain't squeaky clean but it is not as dirty as one could imagine I would say from the outside looking in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
50 win no. 1 106 Report post Posted November 18, 2017 I am a passionate punter, I'm not talking about money, I'm talking about the pillar of all racing. That is giving your mount or drive every opportunity to finish in its best possible position. That's called integrity. Repeat integrity...... Thejanitor 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted November 18, 2017 2 hours ago, jasonmccook1 said: so you are saying team driving doesn't happen anymore? Jason team driving doesn’t mean cheating. There is far more cheating in Greyhounds The weight changes shows that, looking for downgrades. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted November 18, 2017 2 hours ago, 50 win no. 1 said: And there in a nutshell is harness racings biggest problem. "Don't be involved" . People like this imbecile have been involved for decades, and their attitude is " don't be involved". Oh my god, these people don't want discussion or accountability. The industry is struggling and people like Brodie have their heads stuck up where the sun don't shine. God , give me strength!!!!!! Nice to have u onboard. What I said is if you think harness racing is full of cheats then don’t be involved. Abuse is hardly needed on here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
50 win no. 1 106 Report post Posted November 18, 2017 I very seldom comment on harness cafe, but this has stirred me up. I apologize for offending your sensibilities . l bow to your superior knowledge Lord Brodie. Your analysis is mature and wise. I thank you for sharing your pearls of wisdom and insight. I know your time is precious as you have to (1) feed your cat (2) put your slippers and dressing gown on (3) make a hot cup of Milo (4) settle down to Coronation Street God bless you Brodie. You are the future of NZ harness racing...... Fartoomuch 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise 554 Report post Posted November 18, 2017 14 minutes ago, 50 win no. 1 said: I very seldom comment on harness cafe, but this has stirred me up. I apologize for offending your sensibilities . l bow to your superior knowledge Lord Brodie. Your analysis is mature and wise. I thank you for sharing your pearls of wisdom and insight. I know your time is precious as you have to (1) feed your cat (2) put your slippers and dressing gown on (3) make a hot cup of Milo (4) settle down to Coronation Street God bless you Brodie. You are the future of NZ harness racing...... Good heavens. How much you lose? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted November 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, 50 win no. 1 said: I very seldom comment on harness cafe, but this has stirred me up. I apologize for offending your sensibilities . l bow to your superior knowledge Lord Brodie. Your analysis is mature and wise. I thank you for sharing your pearls of wisdom and insight. I know your time is precious as you have to (1) feed your cat (2) put your slippers and dressing gown on (3) make a hot cup of Milo (4) settle down to Coronation Street God bless you Brodie. You are the future of NZ harness racing...... Sorry, but I think you are lacking something up top to put it mildly! Scott Phelans horse drew 8 and as we know Scott normally,likes to go forward and put horses into the race. Todd MacFarlane handed up to Scott Phelan very easily and Scott’s horse was not murdered whatsoever! Don’t beleive that many harness racing followers would agree with you that Scott Phelan murdered his horse, it just wasn’t good enough. The fact that Caitlin Clarke was held up is part of racing and happens in all races and as I and HSVman have said, Todd MacFarlane handed up very quickly, so it was just as much his fault! PS. haven’t got a pussy Dont wear slippers nor dressing gown, although my son does record Coro Street, which I often watch on non race nights. Sleep well, as I think you need a decent sleep for your anger problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise 554 Report post Posted November 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, Brodie said: Don’t beleive that many harness racing followers would agree with you that Scott Phelan murdered his horse, it just wasn’t good enough. Watched it before, went reasonably hard to get to the lead, then had a quiet time and then had a fair few visitors outside it's wheel a reasonable distance from home. Bit tough for a first starter but was 3/3 in the betting so can't see much to complain about. Brodie is right. harewood 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
50 win no. 1 106 Report post Posted November 18, 2017 Goodbye Brodie. I will leave harness cafe to you and your 3 followers. Now I know why this forum is unfortunately under utilized. A opportunity for progressive dialogue has been dominated by people stuck in the dark ages. I realise now, why harness fans do not engage here. I will retreat to the Wall....( which for your reference Brodie is a in joke about Game of Thrones). I understand you didn't comment for months which must have been bliss . .Good luck, goodbye, good lord......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe blogs 202 Report post Posted November 18, 2017 46 minutes ago, Brodie said: Jason team driving doesn’t mean cheating. There is far more cheating in Greyhounds The weight changes shows that, looking for downgrades. Brodie your now a greyhound expert can you tell me how the weight change means your looking for downgrades jasonmccook1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise 554 Report post Posted November 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, 50 win no. 1 said: Goodbye Brodie. I will leave harness cafe to you and your 3 followers. Now I know why this forum is unfortunately under utilized. A opportunity for progressive dialogue has been dominated by people stuck in the dark ages. I realise now, why harness fans do not engage here. I will retreat to the Wall....( which for your reference Brodie is a in joke about Game of Thrones). I understand you didn't comment for months which must have been bliss . .Good luck, goodbye, good lord......... I have had a few disagreements with Brodie on here so don't start that shit. For you to fly off the handle over a drive like that and then get personal is pretty lame. I hope you understand the gallops better than you do the trots. For the record, your first post was full of shite and every one after that too. kilcoyne 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
50 win no. 1 106 Report post Posted November 18, 2017 Thank you , I hope you and Brodie live happily together. Its legal to be married now , or even a civil union. Tea for two anyone? Fartoomuch 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted November 18, 2017 29 minutes ago, 50 win no. 1 said: Goodbye Brodie. I will leave harness cafe to you and your 3 followers. Now I know why this forum is unfortunately under utilized. A opportunity for progressive dialogue has been dominated by people stuck in the dark ages. I realise now, why harness fans do not engage here. I will retreat to the Wall....( which for your reference Brodie is a in joke about Game of Thrones). I understand you didn't comment for months which must have been bliss . .Good luck, goodbye, good lord......... You submit very easily 50? The point being is that you thought Scott Phelan murdered his horse, when most people would say he didn’t! The forum is for open discussion and you start abusing people and calling people in harness cheats! I disagree with both points and it is your perogative to agree with what you think, but you don’t need to run away for that reason! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted November 18, 2017 33 minutes ago, Joe blogs said: Brodie your now a greyhound expert can you tell me how the weight change means your looking for downgrades Joe, thought I might get a response from the greyhound supporters. Not an expert at all on the dogs, but I do know that trainers look to get downgrades so their dogs can be more competitive in a lower grade if they aren’t that competitive in their current grade. Have heard this said many times on Trackside! It is not rocket science Joe when it comes to the weight and it wouldn’t be hard to have a dog not run at its best unless you know different? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise 554 Report post Posted November 18, 2017 27 minutes ago, 50 win no. 1 said: Thank you , I hope you and Brodie live happily together. Its legal to be married now , or even a civil union. Tea for two anyone? Classy, real classy. gary1 and kilcoyne 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...