richie 1,027 Report post Posted November 14, 2017 Wtf Happy Sunrise 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie 1,027 Report post Posted November 14, 2017 That disgusting start.Sack the starter.Rick Doneelly so much better.If Seal the Desl gallops u know there a problem. gary1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Counter Punch 256 Report post Posted November 14, 2017 Every horse in that race had a chance to step away with the exception of Dream About Me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
what a post 811 Report post Posted November 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, richie said: That disgusting start.Sack the starter.Rick Doneelly so much better.If Seal the Desl gallops u know there a problem. Bit tough there fella. Seal the deal has not made a clean beginning in some of his recent starts and has been hanging bad lately and that may be why he did not want to compete and Heaven Rocks looked like he was never pacing comfortably from the start. Good to see Buster Brady run more like he can with a good 5th. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,704 Report post Posted November 14, 2017 Run of the race was Tiger Tara--never looked as though it was comfortable, parked, no chance after breaking and going back through the field and then gets up for 3rd off a swift last half! Purdon wins again, all pretty predictable and boring but how can the stakes in harness be so much higher than the gallops? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Value Bell 251 Report post Posted November 14, 2017 Did anyone acknowledge the breeder of Lazarus? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie 1,027 Report post Posted November 14, 2017 59 minutes ago, what a post said: Bit tough there fella. Seal the deal has not made a clean beginning in some of his recent starts and has been hanging bad lately and that may be why he did not want to compete and Heaven Rocks looked like he was never pacing comfortably from the start. Good to see Buster Brady run more like he can with a good 5th. Na it was awful start.No way you can defend that for a group 1 race Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Counter Punch 256 Report post Posted November 14, 2017 Quite easy to defend really Richie. Every horse got the opportunity to step away cleanly. No one was going backwards, no one gained a clear advantage. An unfortunate incident occured immediately after the start with Seel The Deal and Dream About Me but that was in no way a reflection of the start itself. That incident was no different to Editorial wiping a few out in the second and Franco Hampton doing the same in the last. Peter Lamb does open himself up for some criticism sometimes, but on this occasion it is unwarranted. IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloke 1,232 Report post Posted November 14, 2017 I do not follow Trots so can you advise whether the horse that was interfered with was declared a scratching due to being unable to obtain a fair start or is it tough luck? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie 1,027 Report post Posted November 14, 2017 25 minutes ago, Counter Punch said: Quite easy to defend really Richie. Every horse got the opportunity to step away cleanly. No one was going backwards, no one gained a clear advantage. An unfortunate incident occured immediately after the start with Seel The Deal and Dream About Me but that was in no way a reflection of the start itself. That incident was no different to Editorial wiping a few out in the second and Franco Hampton doing the same in the last. Peter Lamb does open himself up for some criticism sometimes, but on this occasion it is unwarranted. IMO. i disagree.Probably down to interpretation.I will prob see those involved over next few days.Will let yous know there thoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Counter Punch 256 Report post Posted November 14, 2017 I've already seen and talked to those involved. As the tapes released, Seel The Deal went backwards and Dream About Me began that quick that she ran straight into him. richie 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,790 Report post Posted November 14, 2017 11 hours ago, Value Bell said: Did anyone acknowledge the breeder of Lazarus? Isn't it just a numbers game Value? Breed enough horses and sooner or later one top one fires out? Good on him but the people at the coal face deserve more credit and Blueys done a great job yet again Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Piper 408 Report post Posted November 16, 2017 On 15/11/2017 at 6:23 AM, Gruff said: Isn't it just a numbers game Value? Breed enough horses and sooner or later one top one fires out? Good on him but the people at the coal face deserve more credit and Blueys done a great job yet again Lazarus is from a very well performed maternal family so your chances are higher to get a real good one. 86 individuals with 253 noted race wins (Cups, listed or group) and/or awards. Thejanitor 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Piper 408 Report post Posted November 16, 2017 On 14/11/2017 at 7:54 PM, Counter Punch said: I've already seen and talked to those involved. As the tapes released, Seel The Deal went backwards and Dream About Me began that quick that she ran straight into him. Thanks for that insight. Just wanted to add that in regards to Seel The Deal , it may have been the case of going up to the tapes the first time and having to turn around again for the second take of the start (gear adjustment to Heaven Rocks ). That may have contributed to the horse figuring out whats going on or not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
