Guest 2Admin2 Report post Posted October 24, 2017 8 hours ago, hesi said: Peters has to be Racing Minister, as NZF has only 4 ministers in the coalition agreement, and Clayton Mitchell is 6 on the list. That should be a relief for racing folk, as Mitchell has no background in Racing, even though as associate Racing spokesperson, he will get off loaded with the work Seriously Hesi can you see a Labour Government that has swung hard to the left and decries Capitalism will do anything for Racing? Especially when the spout the propaganda that there are "hundred's of thousands of children in poverty"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2Admin2 Report post Posted October 24, 2017 3 hours ago, hesi said: You really have become a cynic Admin. Racing is a legitimate industry that employs many people(I can't recall the figs on how many), any Govt has an obligation to put in place policies that will allow it to grow and thrive. Plus, I don't understand where you are coming from, the Nats did nothing for racing in 9 years, so how about at least cutting the new guys some slack You've surprised me twice in the last month Hesi. Firstly I never took you for a Chardonnay Socialist and now extremely politically naive. Racing is heavily subsidised as it is and is very unlikely to receive further handouts or props from a Labour Government (that is in the process of lurching hard left) regardless of the dubious figures describing how many work in the industry. Why do they have an obligation "to put in place policies that will allow it to grow and thrive"? Racing is seen as a rich white man's sport that survives on the gambling proletariat and increasingly on the vulnerable working class through the pokie revenue prop up. There are a select group of the haute bourgeoisie that represent the antithesis of Labours traditional support base. Winnie wont fight for Racing - it isn't one of his bottom lines. Those of you who voted for Winnie have already been sold down the road. There is no longer any political leverage in terms of a significant support block in Racing - not like in the old days where there was less of a divide between urban and rural values. No matter how much Winnie funding and lobbying is done by our racing elite (although apparently most of his funding came from the fishing industry) it wont slow the erosion of the revenue base by Sports. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 3,923 Report post Posted October 24, 2017 Winston just named new Racing Minister. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Zip 468 Report post Posted October 24, 2017 Well that's interesting ...fishing stumped up major campaign funds for NZF, and now the Kermadecs are off the sanctuary agenda...so folks, if I'm reading between the lines, racing was just a smoke screen.....ummmmmm. As I said, grass roots participants have been hung out to dry...and with greens pressing for the pokie funds, I don't see how It's all going to work. gary1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 3,923 Report post Posted October 25, 2017 Wingatui abandoned today after a horse slips in Race 1. Urgent job for Winston will be to direct more money into track maintenance. Expect more abandonments over the summer months. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2Admin2 Report post Posted October 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, hesi said: I reckon they will announce before Xmas a new Strathayr track to be built at Te Rapa along with major new facilities Are you willing to run a book on that one? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2Admin2 Report post Posted October 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, hesi said: 100 to 1 longshot you reckon Greater. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,005 Report post Posted October 25, 2017 15 hours ago, hesi said: No you are wrong, the agreement says it will support NZF's racing policy, and Clayton Mitchell(Associate spokesman for Racing) released a statement in Sept saying “The horse racing industry is extremely keen to get a state of the art all-weather racetrack established but they need the government to play a role in making this possible. “Unlike the National government which has been apathetic towards such a proposal, New Zealand First supports them fully." That's not part of the written policy they've agreed to I don't think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,005 Report post Posted October 25, 2017 1 hour ago, gubellini said: Wingatui abandoned today after a horse slips in Race 1. Urgent job for Winston will be to direct more money into track maintenance. Expect more abandonments over the summer months. Talking to a trainer down there last night predicted that. No surprise. Track is FuXXed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,005 Report post Posted October 25, 2017 5 hours ago, hesi said: Racing is a legitimate industry that employs many people(I can't recall the figs on how many), any Govt has an obligation to put in place policies that will allow it to grow and thrive. Policies are already there. Racing is just incapable of using them for that purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,005 Report post Posted October 25, 2017 2 hours ago, La Zip said: ...and with greens pressing for the pokie funds, I don't see how It's all going to work. I'd support the Greens on that one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 1,080 Report post Posted October 25, 2017 55 minutes ago, hesi said: I reckon they will announce before Xmas a new Strathayr track to be built at Te Rapa along with major new facilities ....and like Winnie's other promises "will happen by 2027." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patiti 274 Report post Posted October 25, 2017 46 minutes ago, Leggy said: Talking to a trainer down there last night predicted that. No surprise. Track is FuXXed Should have raced at Oaamaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustyngrizzly 1,681 Report post Posted October 25, 2017 Great comment on sharetrader website. Breaking news....All Blacks lose rugby championship as Argentina,Australia and South Africa form a coalition and combine points. gary1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloke 1,232 Report post Posted October 25, 2017 Crusty you are a sore loser who knew the rules of the game before kick off but blames the referee for making wrong calls. mckenzie 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustyngrizzly 1,681 Report post Posted October 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, hesi said: and that's about 5 day old news Crusty, or should I call you rumpelstiltskin Taking care of my looks means i get to news a bit later than usual. Lloyd Vivian 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustyngrizzly 1,681 Report post Posted October 25, 2017 8 minutes ago, bloke said: Crusty you are a sore loser who knew the rules of the game before kick off but blames the referee for making wrong calls. Didn't vote so i didn't lose.Voted 3 times, 1...Got rid of Shipley 2...Got rid of Clarke 3...Voted for Christian Heritage as their candidate was my sons music teacher as well as a lovely lady,plus they wanted the death penalty for murder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom 494 Report post Posted October 25, 2017 1 minute ago, crustyngrizzly said: Didn't vote so i didn't lose.Voted 3 times, 1...Got rid of Shipley 2...Got rid of Clarke 3...Voted for Christian Heritage as their candidate was my sons music teacher as well as a lovely lady,plus they wanted the death penalty for murder. 3. Not very christian is it Crusty? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustyngrizzly 1,681 Report post Posted October 25, 2017 10 minutes ago, Phantom said: 3. Not very christian is it Crusty? Sure isn't,but then there have been millions killed over the years by Christians and maybe thats where the Heritage part comes in. Phantom 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1 361 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 On 10/25/2017 at 1:57 PM, hesi said: Semantics possibly, it is a press release from NZ First hesi whats the policy re foreign investment foreigners cant by existing properties but they can buy new copied straight from aust and what happened their do you want me to tell you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOM(the other Molloy) 1,774 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 50 minutes ago, gary1 said: hesi whats the policy re foreign investment foreigners cant by existing properties but they can buy new copied straight from aust and what happened their do you want me to tell you This stopping foreign buyers is going to be interesting because isn't there a clause in the free trade agreement with China specifically stating the right of Chinese to buy property in NZ? If they are going to change that then the whole deal might(probably will) topple and that will make Winnie and co popular with our exporters. Plus the likelihood of China taking legal action against NZ. I personally do not like the idea of overseas buyers but Helen negotiated it and from where I sit I doubt they will be able to amend it gary1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skelly 53 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 52 minutes ago, TOM(the other Molloy) said: ...isn't there a clause in the free trade agreement with China specifically stating the right of Chinese to buy property in NZ? No, there isn't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOM(the other Molloy) 1,774 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 8 minutes ago, skelly said: No, there isn't. Well it has always been reported as being so Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustyngrizzly 1,681 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 15 minutes ago, TOM(the other Molloy) said: Well it has always been reported as being so I am pretty sure that you are correct . I think it was put in by the Clarke Govt. Don't mind being corrected if i am wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustyngrizzly 1,681 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 Obviously i am not well educated so if possible could you put that into words that a 2nd year fifth former can digest easily.Thank you. Insider 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...