Ohokaman 5,841 Report post Posted September 13, 2017 There is no way the Greens will poll under 5%. Ardern has ruled out helping them so obviously must be confident they have the numbers to govern alone based on their own research. You have to wonder about the latest poll showing National in front again. Another media ploy...?? Lull National supporters into thinking it is in the bag ? Persuade Green and floating voters to switch to Labour ?? I expect the voter turnout this time to be huge. Too much at stake involving too many NZ'rs for them not to get out and have a say. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,841 Report post Posted September 13, 2017 Grandad nearly sent home from Waikato Hospital late at night....another news story....co-incidental ? Sympathy vote ?? Would this have made the news otherwise....?? chevy86 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,720 Report post Posted September 14, 2017 Now Taxcinda says no tax changes till 2020 - how can we be expected to believe her and her beloved Grant. So however with their record to date (only a couple of weeks but volumes promised/said to gain the sympathetic media's backing) after the elections and IF she gets in, can we truly believe nothing will change and no new or changes in the tax policy will eventuate - pink pig propoganda! Keyhole from the other mob did it with GST so obviously the regime of like it or lump it will prevail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustyngrizzly 1,701 Report post Posted September 14, 2017 With new taxes off the table their will be a shortfall in their tax intake. Maybe Joyce was correct all along. chevy86 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted September 14, 2017 Whoopsie, got that wrong Richard http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11921804 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 1,495 Report post Posted September 14, 2017 Well I suppose that with Socialist policy's ,Labour will achieve what Communism achieved, and that is everyone will be equally poor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uriah Heap 481 Report post Posted September 15, 2017 17 hours ago, globederby12 said: Well I suppose that with Socialist policy's ,Labour will achieve what Communism achieved, and that is everyone will be equally poor. Socialist?? Both Labour and National hug the centre line so tightly any talk of "free market" on one side and "socialism" on the other is a fiction. globederby12 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,841 Report post Posted September 15, 2017 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack 431 Report post Posted September 16, 2017 And ...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustyngrizzly 1,701 Report post Posted September 16, 2017 Stating the obvious a headline on google nz ''''Jacinda charms Otara'''' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
final luca 189 Report post Posted September 18, 2017 had my first politic door knocker on Saturday.. a lovely fella. from the nz labour party, armed with his list of voters in gore/Mataura area. polite, chatty. well informed. mmm he said and do you know who you are going to vote for he asks.. well I said. I had made up my mind nz first but really i'm still undesided. that seems to be the way in Mataura, a big swing to nz first he replied. mark Patterson looks as though me might give the tori;s a run for their money.. now it is in general that gore dictates the election swing. or so they say.. the labour party Sheila , doesn't do much for me nor does the labour party leader, when the leadership changed I heard that this jacinda Sheila was a real stunner. been looking on the news every night waiting to be stunned... sorry people I can not see what ever you are all looking at. but I will give her this, she does look better than bill English and his second in charge tart.' but she looks like a horse or two I've backed every week.... wonder if looks win you elections... mmmm wouldn't be many winners with the lot we have at present. ther was a meeting being held this week in gore with all the local canadates but i'm to unwell to be driving out at night, so i'll just take everyone that knows it all in gore for what they think they saw as the best option. and as I told the labour party fella Saturday, I might give labour one of my votes but doubt if it will hep their cause.. but in general, nz first are very likely to run national a close race.. it is going to be neck and neck, stride for stride, and the winnerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr will be the one with the biggest NOSE... I just hope it is not another bill English puppet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,707 Report post Posted September 18, 2017 Just keep guzzling that moonshine Luca and things will become clearer. Isn't that bitch that did for young Toddy now a Gore councillor? Means the average Gore voter not very clever IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
final luca 189 Report post Posted September 18, 2017 nothing wrong with glyness Dickson, the fault clearly lies with todd Barclay .. I never liked him and I alo don't like the pansy national have standing this election. this scandal is going to be around for a long time.there is no doubt that ms Dickson was a spy for bill English as they got on really good but in the end that made no difference as todd did the dirty on his starff ans did bill English on his friend, he stabbed her in the back. yes she is on the council and is doing great, a worthy councilor at that, however I do agree with you that gore people have never been smart when it comes to voting, gore area being a long time national seat proves that,, and chEvy, shE is not a bitch. a witch maybe but she doesn't deserve to be called names like that. if my employer was taping me , i'd smack him over, from what I can put together with bill texting her telling her to resign etc, she decided to go public, and a few ceo national electrate people also quite at the same time... still under investigation. her privacy well and truly violated. but still I guess she is now happy ..not sitting at the table counting her money I also.don't guzzle my moonshine, I drink it with the elegance of any other northern drunk... chevy86 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uriah Heap 481 Report post Posted September 20, 2017 I watched the debate last night until I thought, "This is probably one debate too many" and switched to Crowd Goes Wild. What did go through my mind while they were still being reasonably civil toward each other was their thoughts - Bill - "She reminds me of my daughter. The feisty one." Jacinta - "He reminds me of my Dad." Bill and Jacinta when thinking of Mike Hosking - "God, he's such a wanka." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
final luca 189 Report post Posted September 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Uriah Heap said: I watched the debate last night until I thought, "This is probably one debate too many" and switched to Crowd Goes Wild. What did go through my mind while they were still being reasonably civil toward each other was their thoughts - Bill - "She reminds me of my daughter. The feisty one." Jacinta - "He reminds me of my Dad." Bill and Jacinta when thinking of Mike Hosking - "God, he's such a wanka." that debate last night was timid... just went over what they have already said. foe me the children in the classroom asking questions was by far the best account these political fools have given of themselves and their policies. and yes agree, mike hosking is a right royal wanka. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb 2,064 Report post Posted September 21, 2017 6 hours ago, final luca said: that debate last night was timid... just went over what they have already said. foe me the children in the classroom asking questions was by far the best account these political fools have given of themselves and their policies. and yes agree, mike hosking is a right royal wanka. & Paddy Gower is not? Paddy is so far up the lefts arse that he almost disappears. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
final luca 189 Report post Posted September 21, 2017 5 hours ago, barryb said: & Paddy Gower is not? Paddy is so far up the lefts arse that he almost disappears. they all are, they are all trying to dictate the election result to score ratings points over each another like colmar bruton, the are falsely giving these polls wit about 4,5% accuracy. I would rather take it on the one I did. 50 people I gore.mataura asked them who they would vote for after a debate and what they know about the candidates and the todd Barclay bugging and all but 4 are swinging towards nz first, this poll was taken at ramdon by myself from everyday people on the street, with cross life styles, including a farmer, house wife's, cleaners, cooks, kitchen hand , shop assistants, labourers, unemployed and my poll is within 99.99% accuracy with really only one person not 100% sure of even voting . what I can not understand is were are these people getting the people from , for me they are not asking the right type of people they are sugar coating the result to suit their own opinion. yes paddy is a wanka as well now my main thing for voting day.. I like to watch the elections as they unroll, which channel is going to have the most unbias performance?without being a total suck up ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,707 Report post Posted September 21, 2017 3 hours ago, final luca said: this poll was taken at ramdon by myself from everyday people on the street, with cross life styles, including a farmer, house wife's, Would never get a scientifically acceptable poll in Gore Luca. C and W yodellers, drunkards, backstabbing bitches and I think you may be polling the wrong breed--"ramdom"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
final luca 189 Report post Posted September 22, 2017 i asked people I knew and 99.995 of them are inports, from Auckland,england and other parts of the north island.. I agree those locally born /breed have not got the intelligence to vote any thing different than national. my daughter in law is one such local. she works at macdonalds but acts as though she is the richest person alive.and likes to show it.. a bit like hidasent in keeping up appearances.. but those I quizzed are genuine that they will vote nz first. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,841 Report post Posted September 23, 2017 Thank God sanity prevailed...Gareth was right..." they aren't that thick.." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloke 1,232 Report post Posted September 26, 2017 On 22/09/2017 at 8:50 PM, Flagship uberalles said: Hyacinthe bouquet..... I will be voting Winnie, last chance saloon for him, labour is flakey and national is in too deep with the chinks for my liking...at least Winston will keep things interesting with whoever he goes with. "The Chinks' I see flag you still have your racist views Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,841 Report post Posted September 26, 2017 20 minutes ago, bloke said: "The Chinks' I see flag you still have your racist views Trump supporter through and through Blokey.....no surprises there.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloke 1,232 Report post Posted September 27, 2017 Well it was great to see English supporters at Wembley made up of various races. But no doubt most were born in England. Its hardly surpising that you think "Chink" is not offensive because you are still in denial about being a racist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
100 1 1,386 Report post Posted September 27, 2017 Bloke....are you racist if you believe a person has a superior culture to yours? ......are you racist if you believe a person has an inferior culture to yours? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayer 183 Report post Posted September 27, 2017 It is very interesting to see the somewhat (sic) partisan approach subscribers and the general public have when it comes to deciding where Winston should align his party. His own party appears to be split 30/30 (40% undecided) and non-party opinion merely follows the voting patterns supportive of the major parties. Add to the mix an idea that Winston is in the process for personal gain/revenge and the pot just gets stirred. Surely there are only two questions he needs to consider before making a judgement call (there is no moral high-ground under MMP). First and foremost, is either or both major parties competent fiscally to govern the country. If the answer is only one of them then Winston has a clear and certain obligation to place his party along side that major party. If both are judged competent then his obligation is then to broker a deal that sees the most progress being made towards fulfillment of NZ First policy. It was the policy that prompted the party vote and Winston has a duty to those who voted for him to pursue to his best ability the attainment of those policies. Admittedly the judgement calls are subjective but that is why he achieved the 7%. None of his voter supporters expected NZ First to be a majority party, most I assume, wanted Winston in just the roll the election has given him. All he now needs to do is fulfill his obligations first to NZ and then to NZ First. "One man's opinion". cheers Uriah Heap and barryb 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...