Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted March 30, 2018 41 minutes ago, Kotare_Hunter said: i think the best explanation is human error and this was not supposed to go live until 12:01 am Sunday. But at the end of the day "Rules are Rules" so enforce them or prepare to lose your sports integrity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted March 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Fartoomuch said: But at the end of the day "Rules are Rules" so enforce them or prepare to lose your sports integrity LOL NO NO NO I mean its human error the JCA report has gone out early. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted March 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Kotare_Hunter said: LOL NO NO NO I mean its human error the JCA report has gone out early. I know what you were meaning. You cant expect JCA to get things right all the time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJESTIC 183 Report post Posted March 30, 2018 What a disgrace. $7,000 each. A joke. They should both have been given banned sentences. You push the boundaries then be prepared to suffer extreme consequences not a monetary loss only. What are the odds that they do not reimburse the owners for loss of stake money. gary1, Wannabearacecafer and napier 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,558 Report post Posted March 30, 2018 Who really does run racing, makes you wonder sometimes. gary1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taku Umanga 194 Report post Posted March 30, 2018 16 hours ago, Fartoomuch said: Does seem rather odd timing alright given the press reports suggest they only pleaded guilty after they were officially charged. We will never probably know whether any plea bargaining occurred. Why would you plead guilty before being charged? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portfolio 728 Report post Posted March 30, 2018 If guilty, send them to jail for a while. Soon, everybody involved in all 3 codes, will then know cheating is not acceptable Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted March 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Taku Umanga said: Why would you plead guilty before being charged? Very droll Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jess 1,244 Report post Posted March 30, 2018 $7,000? That'll learn `em ..... a sentence like that will have the cheats around the country trembling in their boots .... What was that cautionary tale we used to get told in our childhood as our elders tried to shape our moral character ...? - oh yes ..."cheats never prosper" Portfolio 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hunterthenutter Report post Posted March 30, 2018 47 minutes ago, jess said: $7,000? That'll learn `em ..... a sentence like that will have the cheats around the country trembling in their boots .... What was that cautionary tale we used to get told in our childhood as our elders tried to shape our moral character ...? - oh yes ..."cheats never prosper" should got time away from training say 12 months Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee270744 684 Report post Posted March 30, 2018 3 hours ago, Portfolio said: If guilty, send them to jail for a while. Soon, everybody involved in all 3 codes, will then know cheating is not acceptable We don't have the cells available there is 11000 in jail and 300 spare beds wouldn't be nearly enough. Imagine jailing all the welfare cheats politicians that cheat IRD cheats and the one cricketer there would be no one left outside. Portfolio 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergio 9 Report post Posted March 30, 2018 you people are stupid they did not cheat the drinking water was contaminated do you really think they would be so dumb to put caffeine in the water the easiest thing in racing to detect as for the comment of send them to prison you just shake your head Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee270744 684 Report post Posted March 30, 2018 And FYI the 11000 have got to eat Halal killed meat because there is 80 Muslims incarcerated. Is that cowering to the minorities? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jess 1,244 Report post Posted March 30, 2018 55 minutes ago, sergio said: you people are stupid they did not cheat the drinking water was contaminated do you really think they would be so dumb to put caffeine in the water Some sleepy stable-hand stumbled and slopped their double-shot espresso into their trough? napier, Kotare_Hunter and Wannabearacecafer 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergio 9 Report post Posted March 30, 2018 your close Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannabearacecafer 44 Report post Posted March 31, 2018 3 hours ago, sergio said: you people are stupid they did not cheat the drinking water was contaminated do you really think they would be so dumb to put caffeine in the water the easiest thing in racing to detect as for the comment of send them to prison you just shake your head Sergio, you are either delusional or have a very dry humour! I'd like to think it's the latter. This is disgraceful, a sad day for harness racing! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz 62 Report post Posted March 31, 2018 One could easily be excused for thinking this is an early April fools joke. The JCA report paints the RIU in an exceptionally poor light. Interesting the JCA challenged the RIU to clarify their rationale for the original suggested penalty, and subsequently observed the RIU submission was "disproportionate to penalties applied for similar" offending. Curious that the RIU's position was they were unable to rule out nobbling, despite no evidence (including investigation by a member of the CIB); yet they were conclusively able to rule out administration due to a lack of supporting evidence. There appears to be little consistency in the decision making &/or favour being afforded to certain stables. The license holders subjected to the malicious, libellous accusations, and other trainers recently charged with presentation under rule 1004 should be feeling very aggrieved by this outcome. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz 62 Report post Posted March 31, 2018 "This investigation unfortunately became public knowledge prior to the RIU visit to the Dunn stable at Woodend Beach. This “leak” was also investigated and found to have come from an overheard telephone conversation between two RIU staff members which was inadvertently overheard due to the “Bluetooth” capability of his vehicle whilst parked at the Rangiora Raceway. This has been dealt with internally" Sheer incompetence! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted March 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, Jazz said: "This has been dealt with internally" Meaning ? Hopefully they didn't go to the expense of employing a flooring contractor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taku Umanga 194 Report post Posted March 31, 2018 20 hours ago, Fartoomuch said: Very droll What's "comical" about that .... common sense surely? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,558 Report post Posted March 31, 2018 The penalty may have been light, but at the end of the day, there reputation has been tarnished once more, and they do say mud sticks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portfolio 728 Report post Posted March 31, 2018 21 hours ago, sergio said: you people are stupid they did not cheat the drinking water was contaminated do you really think they would be so dumb to put caffeine in the water the easiest thing in racing to detect as for the comment of send them to prison you just shake your head Sergio, You seem to know a bit about incident? Fill us in, everyone loves a fairy tale, we have heard some great ones over the years when trainers get caught, trying to explain away. Im all ears, fire ahead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,942 Report post Posted March 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Flagship uberalles said: Those that have defended another big stable for cheating are very vocal about this one!!! I agree though anyone caught breaking the rules should be justly punished. Enough of the innuendo... if you have proof they cheated post it with your name and personal details attached otherwise shut up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,942 Report post Posted March 31, 2018 I will keep watch on them...dont worry yourself too much...cheers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portfolio 728 Report post Posted March 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: Purdon was charged a few times for giving his horses substances I don't have to prove it, it has been in the press look it up, my point was people defended it but are very quick to put the boot into the the dunns I don’t think people are putting boot into Dunn’s, I don’t care who it was, but charges are minimal. If you read article, I see Dr Molloy had plenty of input, I suppose end result shows that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...