crustyngrizzly 1,702 Report post Posted May 24, 2017 Now that the perp has been identified,why continue to show us his photo. Show us a photo of what he looks like now,after the explosion,so that other potential bombers will realise that there is no way in hell that they will be shagging 30 virgins with their cocks scattered over a large piece of real estate. pogo(aus), aquaman and zelda kratchanova 2 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman 1,352 Report post Posted May 24, 2017 Strange how they all look the same, Middle Eastern, Nth African. Strange how they all worship the same cult. Strange how the Poms, and Europeans are so PC when it comes to immigration, no profiling. Strange how they let a cult into their countries that have as their doctrine, death to all infidels. One has to come to the conclusion, this is only the beginning, and as long as the stupid English and Europeans wrap themselves up in PC bullshit, then this will continue. They are so PC that they are retriaing poor old Rolf Harris for pinching women on the bum 50 fucking yrs ago. They are pathetic. crustyngrizzly 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Fox 867 Report post Posted May 24, 2017 And why are practically all suicide bombers later described as"were on a watch list?".If you've done enough to be on a watch list you should be deported immediately. crustyngrizzly, pogo(aus), zelda kratchanova 2 and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
final luca 189 Report post Posted May 24, 2017 it makes one wonder, people that immigrate from that part of the world to NZ, if they can actually be trusted. I have my doubts. when you have a guy sitting in wellington selling doughnuts from a vending cart, that tore up his past port on arrival to NZ, was allowed into the country and not sent straight back from were he came from.. yes he may be keeping his nose clean but so did this guy in Manchester (22years).. we have also had terrorists plotting from memory in mount albert.. some years ago.. so the possibility of this sort of thing happening here is real. for those in Europe this is almost a weekly happening.. the seed has well and truly been planted. seems to be the way of the world as we know it... now all we have to do is find a spray to rid the world of this deadly faction. and for NZ, to rebuild it's boarders to prevent these people that clearly have something to hide from entering. pogo(aus) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 1,495 Report post Posted May 25, 2017 2 hours ago, aquaman said: Strange how they let a cult into their countries that have as their doctrine, death to all infidels To be fair Aqua, the extremist version of the cult is or was in the minority. Here we have a disenfranchised youth, probably no job, and looking at what the west including England , has done to his own country. Bombing the hell out of Libya has created or accentuated the problem of normal Muslim folk changing sides . In some ways the West is reaping what it sows. Somewhat sad but the reality of it. Now of course they have an excuse to ramp up security even further and at the present rate we may see a police state come into being . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb 2,064 Report post Posted May 25, 2017 8 hours ago, globederby12 said: To be fair Aqua, the extremist version of the cult is or was in the minority. Here we have a disenfranchised youth, probably no job, and looking at what the west including England , has done to his own country. Bombing the hell out of Libya has created or accentuated the problem of normal Muslim folk changing sides . In some ways the West is reaping what it sows. Somewhat sad but the reality of it. Now of course they have an excuse to ramp up security even further and at the present rate we may see a police state come into being . Globe, his own country is England, He was born in Manchester. This murder was studying at Uni and close to graduating, so hardly fits into the disenfranchised category. Its very hard for us to imagine whats changed in this guys life to even get to a situation where he would contemplate doing this to his fellow countrymen. The police must be in a no win situation with these potential at risk types as well, watch them closely and risk harassing them further down this path or take a back step & risk them continuing on unchecked. It looks at this stage an impossible battle to win. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 1,495 Report post Posted May 25, 2017 14 minutes ago, barryb said: Globe, his own country is England, He was born in Manchester. This murder was studying at Uni and close to graduating, so hardly fits into the disenfranchised category. Its very hard for us to imagine whats changed in this guys life to even get to a situation where he would contemplate doing this to his fellow countrymen. The police must be in a no win situation with these potential at risk types as well, watch them closely and risk harassing them further down this path or take a back step & risk them continuing on unchecked. It looks at this stage an impossible battle to win. Yes Barry I realize he was born in Manchester, but the nagging feeling of the west reaping what it sows is beginning to take hold. I agree it is an impossible battle to win and the total hypocrisy of British politicians in not acknowledging publicly that they are themselves created the part of the problem in the first place really rankles me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uriah Heap 481 Report post Posted May 26, 2017 Manchester born and bred. The bomber was a Pom. I think I'm right in saying the most common name in Britain is now Mohammed. As such - don't bother shutting the gate - the horse bolted long ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Fox 867 Report post Posted May 26, 2017 If a cat has kittens in a hen house that doesn't make them chooks.Religion will supercede all else in Islam. aquaman and globederby12 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloke 1,232 Report post Posted May 26, 2017 On 25/05/2017 at 10:08 AM, Brown Fox said: And why are practically all suicide bombers later described as"were on a watch list?".If you've done enough to be on a watch list you should be deported immediately. So where are you going to deport and English Citizen to? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Fox 867 Report post Posted May 26, 2017 In this case Libya where he has family ties. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustyngrizzly 1,702 Report post Posted May 26, 2017 No deportation,just form Death Squads like Pinochet did. Takem out before they take you out. 5 minutes ago, bloke said: So where are you going to deport and English Citizen to? Steve Paul 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloke 1,232 Report post Posted May 26, 2017 18 minutes ago, crustyngrizzly said: No deportation,just form Death Squads like Pinochet did. Takem out before they take you out. So I could report you Crusty as a terrorist and then they would take you out? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloke 1,232 Report post Posted May 26, 2017 20 minutes ago, Brown Fox said: In this case Libya where he has family ties. Libya would just have sent him back to the UK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Fox 867 Report post Posted May 26, 2017 Maybe they could do a deal with North Korea.I'm sure they would like a few more workers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloke 1,232 Report post Posted May 26, 2017 Yes if you live in a dictatorship there are easy answers. if you live in a democracy it is diificult because we value individual rights. Having said that I detest these pricks and sadly with the defeat of Isis on the battle field imminent, I fear that there will be many more cowardly attacks. Brown Fox 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 1,495 Report post Posted May 26, 2017 2 hours ago, bloke said: the defeat of Isis Bloke , you wont beat or defeat an ideology on any battlefield. The damage is already done in the middle East , England is now reaping the benefits of its political decisions at the expense of its citizens. It wont end any time soon, get, used to it . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloke 1,232 Report post Posted May 26, 2017 Isis will be defeated on the battlefields of Iraq and Syria. However, the war with take a different form with many more attacks such as those seen in Manchester. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wood 1,577 Report post Posted May 26, 2017 Sadly, Helen Clark opened the flood gates here when she was in charge, with her pathetic political stance. It hasn't come home to roost here at this stage, but believe me, get ready because it will! crustyngrizzly and globederby12 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelda kratchanova 2 501 Report post Posted May 26, 2017 Boris says the death penalties should be mandatory for suicides bombers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustyngrizzly 1,702 Report post Posted May 26, 2017 37 minutes ago, zelda kratchanova 2 said: Boris says the death penalties should be mandatory for suicides bombers Getting that legislation enshrined into law could take a bit of '' piecing together.'' pogo(aus) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...