Yorkielad 108 Report post Posted February 24, 2016 So what captured your eyes from the Avondale Guineas, looking on to the Derby, maybe even reflections back to Waikato ? Is Rangipo the goods ? seems like he has done everything right so far ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 3,993 Report post Posted February 24, 2016 Rangipo is a real tough professional racehorse.Being out of a Zabeel mare has helped him get over 2100m but may not be enough to get him over the line at 2400m.His sire Stryker won twice at distances of 1200 and 1350m and only up to Group 3 Level. Can he get the extra distance? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant R 348 Report post Posted February 24, 2016 Im really warming to GET THAT JIVE if Opie stays on it and great chance however i will probably get shot down here the field doesnt have a real stars like Mongolian Khan or VSB so i think it will be alot more even this year Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseacol 2,488 Report post Posted February 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Grant R said: Im really warming to GET THAT JIVE if Opie stays on it and great chance however i will probably get shot down here the field doesnt have a real stars like Mongolian Khan or VSB so i think it will be alot more even this year You won't get shot down by me Grant. Last year looked and was a two horse race. Many of the preceeding years there have also been standouts (Jimmy Choux/Silent Achiever etc) This year wide open. On sectionals Provocative did well on Saturday, although at first watch it looked like just a run. Your pick Get That Jive is one of the few with proven wet track credentials if the weather did turn. I'm sticking with Thunder Down Under. Will cover What's The Story and Humidor at decent odds. Interesting race... Grant R 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,824 Report post Posted February 25, 2016 Extra distance will suit Provocative. What's the Story and The Hassler ( Roger James record in Derbies..!) other chances. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestbets 206 Report post Posted February 25, 2016 Rangipo has been my pick for some time and I have had some very nice collets. I look at it this way, Vinny has stuck with this horse where he could of ridden The Hassler for Roger James. The trainer (Pike) is one of the best and he wouldn't be starting the horse if he didn't think he wasn't able to stay the distance. Those too factors alone give me alot of confidence. The horse has good early speed to get a nice position and settles. I gave thought to putting a good bet on before Waikato for the derby but I sadly think to negative in respect to the horse not starting. I hate to put money on and see my horse not get to the race so like to bet on the day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atubbs 7 Report post Posted February 25, 2016 I am still in the Valley Girl camp along with Provocative. I understand VG had 7kgs and 5kgs less than Kawi and Stolen Dance last start respectively, however I can not see any of the other well fancied horses such as Get that Jive / Rangipo getting WFA weight allowances from Kawi and Stolen Dance and going past them like Valley Girl did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick 23 Report post Posted February 25, 2016 I think the SI colt is a big show. Check his videos! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todamax101 533 Report post Posted February 25, 2016 Keen on Raghu but like others said it's a very even field. Outside of him things seem to be coming together for What's The Story at the right time and on raw ability Humidor would be right in it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestbets 206 Report post Posted February 25, 2016 16 hours ago, atubbs said: I am still in the Valley Girl camp along with Provocative. I understand VG had 7kgs and 5kgs less than Kawi and Stolen Dance last start respectively, however I can not see any of the other well fancied horses such as Get that Jive / Rangipo getting WFA weight allowances from Kawi and Stolen Dance and going past them like Valley Girl did. She is a big chance but the day she won at WFA was when the track was off and didn't suit many of the runners. Would wonder if it would have been the same result if it was a good track. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkielad 108 Report post Posted March 1, 2016 9 BMW NZ DERBY 2400m, $750000, 3YO SW, 05:22 p.m. Starting Limit: 18. Ballots: 6 BRIGHTON 1 GET THAT JIVE (AUS) 1 RAGHU 1 RANGIPO (AUS) 1 VALLEY GIRL 5 SON OF MAHER (AUS) 6 CAPELLA 7 TAVAGO 8 THUNDER DOWN UNDER (AUS) 9 THE HASSLER 10 SPLENDIDO 11 PREDATOR 12 WHAT'S THE STORY 13 PROVOCATIVE 14 ANIMATOR (AUS) 15 PIECE OF KATE 16 HUMIDOR 17 PRODIGAL SON 18 EN SUITE 19 GOBSTOPPER Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkielad 108 Report post Posted March 1, 2016 Do SON of MAHER and CAPELLA get another chance ? CAPPELLA is like a couple of horses a while back that I could never get on the right day. BRIGHTON is an interesting one, I made a nice little sum of his first two starts, then sorta kept him in mind but wasn't really concerned, but he leapt in to calculations with his last start and wouldn't surprize me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant R 348 Report post Posted March 1, 2016 I think track condition may play a big part to be honest alot of the horses may struggle unless it stays fine for the rest of the week i still like Get That jive but the way Valey girl ran at Te Rapa on that ground must be shortening in the odds Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atubbs 7 Report post Posted March 1, 2016 According to Aidan Rodley's twitter feed...Capella will run in the Derby, Leith Innes to ride. Does this mean Provocative will not - or simply Innes has choosen Capella over Provocative??? Capella running certainly adds another genuine contender to the race! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atubbs 7 Report post Posted March 1, 2016 http://www.theinformant.co.nz/racing/YN49025/Capella-in-surprise-switch-to-Derby Ah that makes sense, Provocative not running. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,824 Report post Posted March 1, 2016 Bloody shame, I thought she was a great show. Weather will decide - The Hassler if wet, What's the Story the backup. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,824 Report post Posted March 1, 2016 2 hours ago, Yorkielad said: 9 BMW NZ DERBY 2400m, $750000, 3YO SW, 05:22 p.m. Starting Limit: 18. Ballots: 6 BRIGHTON 1 - 6 GET THAT JIVE (AUS) 1 - 1 RAGHU 1- 5 RANGIPO (AUS) 1 - 13 VALLEY GIRL 5- 18 SON OF MAHER (AUS) 6- 17 CAPELLA 7- 11- TAVAGO - 12 THUNDER DOWN UNDER (AUS) 9- 4 THE HASSLER 10- 14 SPLENDIDO 11- 2 PREDATOR 12- 9 WHAT'S THE STORY 13- 8 PROVOCATIVE 14 (scr) ANIMATOR (AUS) 15 - (scr) PIECE OF KATE 16- 16 HUMIDOR 17- 15 PRODIGAL SON 18- 10 EN SUITE 19- 7 GOBSTOPPER- 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,855 Report post Posted March 1, 2016 Yes, those keen on Provocative on the fixed odds have done their cash. That is the chance you take. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant R 348 Report post Posted March 1, 2016 Listening to the comments on Earlies show they reckon it will be a dead 5 on Saturday now with the draw i can see Opie dictating the race on Get That Jive he is the master Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted March 2, 2016 Like he did on Buzz Lightyear? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,824 Report post Posted March 2, 2016 Thunder down Under is the other one that won't mind the rain. Always runs on and Parkes might suit it. Regman 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkielad 108 Report post Posted March 2, 2016 I am going with RANGIPO, he has done nothing wrong so far and will be my place punt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherry_bomb 89 Report post Posted March 3, 2016 Hard to separate a few of them. I'm going a different route and forgiving Tavago his recent flop. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,341 Report post Posted March 3, 2016 Michael Walker to ride Raghu. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkielad 108 Report post Posted March 3, 2016 What happened to the kid ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
