Breeder 609 Report post Posted April 7, 2015 Come on Berri --the bit about Princess Coup is a quote from the article about John Bromely which I asked Swynford if he could scan for us all. It has nothing to do with Synford's particular ideas on breeding except to show that at least one very successful person involved in racing and breeding takes a lot of notice of the pedigree ( among other things). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berri 2,131 Report post Posted April 8, 2015 I seem to remember that Joe was using a breeding expert to purchase his horses. That's what I was referring to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swynford 121 Report post Posted April 9, 2015 from Berri " I asked you Swynford to do something really simple and that was to nominate a yearling, based on your pedigree analysis, that hadn't yet raced, and divulge to us what it is so that we can track your theory. I'm not maliciously asking that you do this, more in terms of discovery in respect of your theories. Quite simple really. You going to take the bait?" yes Berri I will take the bait, but I will not be entering your challenge as I don't believe making judgement on "a" particular horse or in the case of your challenge "three" horses is an accurate guide to any theory. But I will do better than your challenge. I will find what I think are the top 10 or 20 yearlings from each sale based on "my theories" and they can compete against the top 10 or 20 top priced lots from each sale. I am assuming that the top 10 or 20 top priced lots from each sale will be the nicest looking individuals and from the most fashionable families so it should be an accurate test. And no it is not a simple job, To firstly enter all the horses into my data base and then assess each one is at the very least a months work, Breeder 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trakdap 390 Report post Posted April 9, 2015 That seems to be a goer. Berri we will all pick 10-20 also based on our own theories. Nice one swynford, I hope that would be enough and next year we won't be told that was not enough and we now need 200 to make a judgement?? Breeder 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trakdap 390 Report post Posted April 9, 2015 I still think 3 choices out of 1400 odd horses is plenty for the Horsemen/women among us, to choose a decent horse. Any more is just stroking egos of the "others". Horsemen will always be horsemen just some are better than others, but I would always ask a horseman for advise over the "others". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruby 160 Report post Posted April 17, 2015 Berri - I am not sure are you keeping a spreadsheet on these 'picks'? If so my horses are all named now - the Hallivien colt is called Simon Says trained/owned K T Myers, the Testella colt Harlook is in oz spelling, the Ardent Fire colt Here to Stay with Ralph Manning unplaced at its only trial. Regards Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted August 1, 2015 Lot 204. $155,000 Oreilly/queen sabeel. Colt. Waikato stud - O'Brien Thoroughbreds Lot 278 . $200,000 Thorn park/Stella livia .Colt Trelawney. .ellerslie lodge B.heys Lot 251. $80,000. Thorn park/shortblackmini. Colt. Esker lodge. McKay Best of luck,better start syndicating lost track of this comp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Vivian 742 Report post Posted August 4, 2015 One of my picks, 'Splurge' ran 2nd at Te Teko trials over 1000m. looks like he'll make the grade - he was by far the most expensive of my selections but from a great family. I'll have to try and find out some more on my other two picks, and see what has happened to them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Vivian 742 Report post Posted August 6, 2015 Just reading through the Latest NZTM Newsletter and - hey Presto! - Here's a report on one of my selections, the Pins colt out of Etoile Centieme. He's in Singapore, is named Chopin's Nocturne, and has now had 3 starts for an unplaced debut in the Singapore Golden Horseshoe, a 2nd and a dominant win last start by 41/5 lengths. His Michael Clements rates him very highly at this stage, "Possibly the best young horse in my yard" he is quoted as saying, in the article. So that's all good! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Vivian 742 Report post Posted August 6, 2015 Here's the actual article: Chopin’s Nocturne (NZ) (Pins) went one better over his last-start second by winning in dominant fashion in the $75,000 Restricted Maiden race over 1200m on Sunday. The three-year-old son of Pins did not have the easiest of introductions to life at Kranji. He was thrown in the deep end for his debut run, lining up for the Group 2 Aushorse Golden Horseshoe (1200m) on May 15, when he failed to impress with an unplaced finish. His last start was more encouraging, running a close second to Lim’s Showcase (NZ) (Showcasing) on July 12 in the Hello Chicago Stakes Open (1200m) in spite of having to jump from the widest of gates. There was no such problem this time. Having drawn better in barrier number 5, the $8 favourite settled nicely with cover in midfield and bided his time while the likes of Red Jewel (Red Dazzler ) and Grey Gatsby (Exceed And Excel) led the way. As they approached the home turn, Chopin’s Nocturne took up a good position out wide and made his move. An excellent turn of foot around the 400m mark took him past the leading pack and he continued to gallop forward towards the winning post, leaving the rest of the field trailing in his Chopin’s Nocturne waltzes home at Kranji “His last run was good but he was running after the leading horses from out wide and ended up over-racing. “I told Nunes to hold him back this time and I was confident he would do well. “I am really excited to see what else this horse can do. At this stage, he is one of the best young horses in my stable, if not the best.†In his three outings to date, Chopin’s Nocturne has brought home stakes earnings of around $55,000 for the Jubilant Racing No 2 Stable. wake. With the win in the bag, the Michael Clements-trained gelding eased down in the final moments to cross the winning line four-and-a-half lengths ahead of second placed One More Achiever (Onemorenomore). Magstock (NZ) (Tavistock) was third a further length away. The winning time was 1min 10.8secs over 1200m on the Long Course. Clements was not surprised by the winning run made by Chopin’s Nocturne, having already earmarked him as the one to look out for in his yard. “I am happy to see he is improving with every run,†said Clements. Race Singapore TC Restricted Maiden S. 1200m. Winner Chopin’s Nocturne (NZ) 2012 Owners Jubilant Racing No. 2 Stable Trainer Michael Clements (Singapore) Breeding by Pins (AUS ) out of Etoile Centieme by Danasinga (AUS ) Breeder Waikato Stud Ltd; Waikato; NZ Sales 2014 National Yearling Sale - Select Sale V: Waikato Stud Ltd, $115,000 P: Michael Wallace B/stock 2014 Ready to Run Sale V: Prima Park, $150,000 P: Michael J Clements Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted August 27, 2015 Nice lloyd,Hoping Amarula can win again at Hastings saturday to get some serious momentum Lloyd Vivian 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Vivian 742 Report post Posted October 29, 2015 I see my third selection, the Savabeel colt out of Ever Clever won a 1000m trial today in 57.8, at Te Aroha. Nice to finally hear something about him.. trakdap 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trakdap 390 Report post Posted November 30, 2015 my bernadini filly Ruud not too . won on weekend. Pegs Pride and Breeder 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevan15 19 Report post Posted December 2, 2015 On 6/25/2014, 8:32:34, Kevan15 said: Hi Berri, my picks are: Lot 585, Sold for $32,000, bought by Hawtin Racing, Sire: Guillotine, Dam: La Montreux, Sex: Colt. Lot 857, Sold for $46,000, bought by John Chalmers Bloodstock, Sire: Rip Van Winkle, Dam: Thunderchine, Sex: Filly. Lot 1018, Sold for $97,500, bought by Phil Cataldo Bloodstock, Sire: Shocking, Dam: Crystalthecowgirl, Sex: Colt. Well, all 3 of mine have now been named and raced, the Guillotine/La Montreux colt is called White Shadow and races in Singapore and has had 2 starts for no placings. The Rip Van Winkle/Thunderchine filly is called Sakamoto and races in Western Oz, has done ok in a couple of trials, winning 1 and coming 2nd in another couple, but has now had 2 starts for no placings. The Shocking/Crystalthecowgirl colt is named Antonio Guiseppe and is raced here in NZ by Murray Baker and won his first start at Avondale yesterday by nearly 3 lengths, looks very smart, nice to get a run on the board with one of my picks! Anyone else have any of their picks getting to the races yet? Ashoka, trakdap and Lloyd Vivian 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trakdap 390 Report post Posted December 8, 2015 184 1,065 posts Posted 24 Jun 2014 · Report post I will take one from each sale. Premier :- Lot 312 filly Bernadini - To Many Diamonds. 220K Purchased by Go Racing / named Ruud Not Too (Winner) Select :- Lot 1006 filly Rip Van Winkle - Clown Princess.95k Purchased by Shaun Ritchie / named Promise To Pay, 5 starts ,2 Placings to date Festival - Lot 1226 colt Showcasing- Shades of Silk. 15k Purchased by Nigel Tiley/ named showboy in NZ (stakes winner) now in Singapore. Kevan15 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breeder 609 Report post Posted December 9, 2015 My update; Lot 919 Thorn Park x Accompli ( colt) bought by N. Tanner Auckland Named Mission Accomplished (NZ), won two trials. Sold to Hong Kong ( renamed Mission Possible) Has had one unplaced run in HK. Lot 1012 Roc de Cambes x Consumer ( filly) went to Christchurch Had 2 seconds in trials in the autumn. Sold to Australia --named Consommateur Lot 1015 Makfi x Cotton ( filly) passed ( hopefully Gerry Harvey will race it ) Not named yet. Had first trial (unplaced) in November. with Nigel Tiley. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trakdap 390 Report post Posted December 12, 2015 Ruud Not To won again. Breeder and Swynford 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swynford 121 Report post Posted December 12, 2015 trakdap love her pedigree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trakdap 390 Report post Posted December 27, 2015 Ruud is now stakes placed. That's 2 out of 3 so far. Waiting for the 3rd? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Vivian 742 Report post Posted May 20, 2016 Splurge won recently and Chopin's Nocturne won again last night in Singapore. CN looks to be the pick of my three so far... Breeder 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Vivian 742 Report post Posted June 24, 2016 Splurge bolted in again today over 1,400m. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted November 3, 2016 Amarula purchased for 80k on 174k Speith 200k , in the Darley classic this weekend worth 236k but feel this is the tip of an iceberg.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Vivian 742 Report post Posted December 8, 2016 Splurge wins his 3rd - a rating 75 over 1200m - from 6 starts, quite easily today at Hastings. Had to be patient with this bloke but looks like he might be worth the wait. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... 226 Report post Posted December 8, 2016 15 hours ago, Lloyd Vivian said: Splurge wins his 3rd - a rating 75 over 1200m - from 6 starts, quite easily today at Hastings. Had to be patient with this bloke but looks like he might be worth the wait. The gelding looks to have helped massively! 6 starts for 3 wins and a second with one of his wins being in a $7,000 race and 2 being in $8,000 races. Does look like he's in for a nice campaign but a long way to re-pay the $500K back! Lloyd Vivian 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Vivian 742 Report post Posted December 9, 2016 Mate - you're not wrong there!! Still, he's clearly got some ability and hopefully he can push on from this point. .... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...