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    Good point. Iraklis I was merely speculating re move - no facts behind my statement above. Don't get me wrong I love watching their horses go around too, though we don't like competing against them so much! Rolleston is expanding rapidly with subdivisions and infrastructure - All stars are in a prime location right on the town boundary. That land on Levi Rd will be worth a fortune for development in future... Very clever foresight whoever decided to set up shop there.
  2. Positives at Nelson

    So it's almost been 3 weeks & still nothing... Are we surprised?? Its a concern how drawn out this investigation has been (whatever the specifics & outcome). Far from upholding the integrity of the industry, the lack of transparency and inaction has allowed the rumour mill to flourish and had the opposite effect! One can't help but wonder how this would differ if it was a small player...

    Didn't Mark plan to shift to Oz a few years back, or was it a second barn to compliment Rolleston - can't recall the details or why it never eventuated? With the money on offer in NSW metro meetings and large owner base surely they would have entertained the thought... Butt & Jones teams appear to be going good over there so far, getting low handicaps & some easy kills
  4. Greyhound Trouble

    The length of time & lack of transparency when investigating issues such as positives, and the perception of protection afforded to certain participants for mine.... There's always more that can be done to address wastage, but there are some fantastic rehoming groups and individuals doing a great job with finished horses so there are plenty of good examples out there. HRNZ and the breeders are getting beind events and starting to promote the life after racing message which is also positive. Of course not all horses (or dogs) are suitable for rehoming which is a hard pill to swallow for certain welfare groups.
  5. Creatine or majestic son

    Agree with 2Piper, unfortunately most new sires don't get a look in at the sales which makes it very hard for them to get established. In saying that there's a lot to like about Creatine. The fact that he raced on as an older horse and was competitive in Europe appeals. He was sound, sensible and versatile and is an impressive individual in the flesh. Nevele R has priced him fairly to get a good book - hopefully he does the job and leaves nice types. Majestic Son can throw some big horses and there have been a few with hock issues, though plenty also get up and go early. If your mare is big and burly might pay to discuss further with people who've bred a few mares to him for their opinion. Majestic Son is a no for me as he doesn't suit my mares and I have a preference for the Andover Hall progeny, but that's just personal opinion.
  6. Raymond Reekie Ban - March 2020

    Who on earth would hand to a horse that's sat parked and had an absolute gutbuster Brodie? It was never going to take him to the lane & not really in the best interests of the owner, trainer and punter to be carted back to last by a horse out on its feet...
  7. Raymond Reekie Ban - March 2020

    Should he be penalised for a poor drive - yes ... but this appears OTT compared with penalties for other indiscretions. Interference extinguishing the chances of other runners (sometimes placing horses and drivers at risk of injury) gets treated with leniency in comparison. You could argue the detrimental effect on a horse, connections and punter perception is far higher. As for positive swabs.... If the RIU took any longer to investigate they'd become cold cases. The lack of transparency and inconsistency applied to penalties is appalling.
  8. Trainers in Canterbury revolt!

    Longowner you appear to hold a very embittered view towards trainers. Making blanket reference to selfish, classless rabble and accusations of slander and unprofessionalism.... Heard of the pot calling the kettle black? At least these "outspoken" trainers are being proactive and trying to strive for ongoing improvements instead of just accepting the status quo. Perhaps going forward the approach could be more unified. And let's face it, there are a few on the board at HRNZ that could do with a shake up... Perform and deliver results or move on.
  9. smoke n reactor

    Really depends on the time elapsed post race before the vet checked the horse out. If the horse had been washed, cooled out, had a drink etc it may well have returned to a normalised rate and the vet can presumably only report on what they see at the time as they're reporting in a professional capacity. Happened with one of ours several years ago that had breathing issues, the vet was busy with others that required more urgent treatment and by the time he got to ours he was basically back to normal. Contradictory maybe, but no great conspiracy
  10. I thought it was down where the old stables were, though could be wrong?
  11. Terror To Love

    Geez some of you must be fun at parties
  12. christen me

    I don't think anyone's insinuating that he won't be well cared for by his new trainer or while racing (well I certainly wasn't). It's more around the uncertainty of what happens to him in a foreign country when they finally call it a day. Like it or not people follow top horses and take an interest in their careers. I think it's great so many people care what happens to him, if nobody was bothered I would be more concerned.
  13. christen me

    IMO horses that retire sound & have a good nature deserve a life after racing. Champions like Christen Me are in a different league in that they've earned their retirement. I always slow down past a large paddock in West Melton to catch a glimpse of the occupants. Lyell Creek, Take a Moment, can't recall the others - such a great sight to see these old warriors happy and obviously very well cared for.
  14. Mark Jones to set up in OZ

    Looks that way JackSprat. Already a big seller to Oz, perhaps will retain more of the good ones to race over there under NZ ownership. Either way is looking after his owners which is commendable in this climate, but it would be an utter waste to lose a trainer of his horsepower to our industry altogether.
  15. Whats Happening

    Speed and class aside, one of the things that gives their horses an edge is their ability to do a power of work during a race and still run on at the end. Tough horses usually do well on grass. Based on their racing patterns you would think they may have picked up a few more? As an aside interested to see Benicio sold - I may be wrong but understood that of late horses that are moved on go to Oz or finished. He always looked like a nice horse, hopefully he can do a good job for new connections.