Nice Option

Riccarton Race 7 - NUMBER 2 Randwick Race 5 - NUMBER 2 Randwick Race 6 - NUMBER 2 Randwick Race 7 - NUMBER 2 Randwick Race 8 - NUMBER 2

Thanks for the comp mate, appreciated! Hawkes Bay Race 6 (Hunta Pence) Sydney Race 7 (Happy Clapper) Sydney Race 8 (Ventura Storm)

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12017931 Great to see this initiative from our most progressive Racing Club...

Whilst some merit in parts of your rationale dropping stakes seems to be a backward step to me. As an owner/breeder it doesn't exactly motivate me to purchase yearlings when you are buying against a backdrop of an industry (stakes) in decline. And I stand to be corrected but, in my opinion, the field that the old Kelt Capital used to attract back when it was $1mio (possibly $2mio 1 year) was far classier and with more depth than what we get now

But on the basis of that logic (stakes paid versus yield on revenue) we would then be ruling a line through some of our great races, namely the Oaks, the Thorndon Mile, Sistema Stakes, Derby, Guineas.... the list goes on) For your reference: Return to industry Stakes 20/01/2018 Saturday Wellington R C 922,712 1,010,000 18/11/2017 Saturday Canterbury Racing-Canterbury 886,272 920,000 1/01/2018 Monday Auckland R C 764,059 970,000 26/12/2017 Tuesday Auckland R C 757,323 740,000 10/03/2018 Saturday Auckland R C 699,778 1,250,000 3/03/2018 Saturday Auckland R C 661,190 1,530,000 27/01/2018 Saturday Auckland R C 595,206 2,440,000 11/11/2017 Saturday Canterbury Racing-Canterbury 474,624 835,000 10/02/2018 Saturday Waikato R C 404,119 880,000

I have to query this statement Admin..... I am struggling to fathom how exactly do you measure returns to the industry . Derby Day has been the 6th biggest day this season in New Zealand from a punting perspective. From your logic this would suggest that the other 260 meetings are also not contributing. Your clarification of these matters would be appreciated

thanks guys, very generous NZ St Ledger - Felaar Cuddle Stakes - Slimline Wellington Guineas - Dama Zorro Lightning Stakes - Volks Lightning NZ Oaks - Hasahalo

Thanks Insider Civil Disobedience (Derby) Grunt (Guineas) Belle Du Nord (Oaks)

Yeah they could have a Ford/Holden drifting event on the inside of the course and the crowds would be ten fold

Thanks for the responses above. One query - is the dummy bidding that NZB talks about being illegal (unless of course it is a part owner looking to secure full interest) relate to bids under the reserve or over the reserve or both? Obviously dummy bidding over the reserve is highly risky if the bidder doesnt want the horse but is it allowed if the bids are under the reserve??

i dont know what level the genuine bids were at but its not a great look is it!!

I was in the unfortunate position of having a horse (book 1) subjected to a mix of dummy bids and genuine bids. Unfortunately one of the dummy bidders (NB - not acting on my instruction, rather the on account stud) bid through the reserve so the hammer fell yet it then transpired the 'purchaser' was the dummy bidder so horse gets passed in. Thoughts on that everyone??

you blokes are like a couple of 5 year olds!!

I agree with The Torch. We cant all be blessed with grammar from the gods yet he did raise some interesting points and I thought he was, in the main, respectful of those who held an alternate opinion. We need people that generate debate and I think we can all look past poor spelling as long as the message is clear . Give him another chance I say - I was rather enjoying his presence !

2 Danny Crozier runners at Riccarton - trainer reports that they will both need the run. Both bolt in.....

I had this happen with NPC rugy when daylight saving ended in NZ and the Aussie bookmakers didnt adjust their start times hence the betting was still available for a raft of options that had already resulted. The bookmaker paid out on some bets but then refunded and voided the larger bets that I had. To be frank, I can see their point especially where it is a genuine mistake. As someone on this site said at the time "If you cannot lose, you cannot win"

Thanks Tiger, always very helpful

Depression? Dementia? Drunk? or d) all of the above?

Completely agree...there was one point yesterday where Channel 7 were doing their spiel with Francesca Cumani and co (highly informative and interesting even for non punters) and they cut back to the English bird in the studio and all she did was read out the tote prices.... The Channel 7 coverage as well as the actual on track product out of Aussie just shows how far behind we are. Insurmountable I would say

Cheers PFP, on that basis i would assume they have a decent claim against the server provider given the financial and reputational ramifications

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I've mentioned in another thread but this beggars belief. With all the criticism in the past and the promises to get things right it is an absolute disgrace that the website was down for an hour before the race. Heads must roll

what a f%%ing disgrace, I was trying to bet on the winner from 415 pm and was just stalling the whole time.

what a farking joke

I was on track Saturday and thought the atmosphere was fantastic. I was in the bar on the ground floor ( Winning Post I believe) and it was packed throughout with a great mix of punters and casual observers alike, all having a bloody good time I might add. I dont think the bar prices in there are over the top - 5 Steiny Pures for less than $40 is pretty reasonable in my opinion. Good work Ellerslie, always enjoyable