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...and I take it you think it's ok, and good for the integrity of racing that they should have to do that to preserve their own and their horse's safety?

And he's a horse welfare advocate, so I'm hoping he might bring a halt to the crash test dummy approach to testing track safety.

Bloody good summary of what I think we know PS. Thanks.

At least Insider lasted a few days. Scooby couldn't manage even a few hours after saying he wouldn't engage with me again

Yep. it's your site and you do what you like. But that post is exactly what I mean. Name calling seems to have been substituted for intelligent, constructive discussion.

Thanks Oman. I thought so too and there was a time when you weren't supposed to say stuff that you couldn't support. A forum for reasonably intelligent and open debate. Some may need to look in the mirror before they foist the knowitall label on others.

I don't read the Herald, least of all the racing section. Did Dillon write that? Could be correct. It's on the top level of the growing medium level but below the turf level. Next time you are there, get them to show you a core sample and explain, then report back here.

I totally agree and have stated that a number of times. I'm only pointing out that the current problem is subsurface root mat, not surface thatch as Nerula claims.

The matted area is between the turf layer and the underlying sand/mesh layer. That's what has been reported by Strathayr, NZTR, ATR etc. If it were simply surface thatch the remedy would be a day. Couple of passes with the chain harrows and remove the loosened debris, not a year of aeration and 3000 tons of sand. How it got like that and they seemingly didn't know even though they were supposedly core sampling is another question. Sounds like you still haven't got it.

Not sure that comment helps your case Neil but it sounds like you have finally grasped that the issue is NOT surface thatch and that no-one has ever suggested that.

I think you were told wrong then. The issue has always been reported as matting in the root zone. PW said on Weigh In that the remedy is "to remove 100% of that matting that's causing us the issue which is just the grass rooting right in the joining of the profile sand surface." They would not be solid coring to 190mms to remedy thatch on the surface. Nerula seems unable to understand that.111111111

Where did he say that?

I make that about 1750 cubic metres which on say 60,000 sqm is about 35mls over time isn't it?

They have put on 90. Plan to add 90 more after the last meeting but 3000 tons total presumably over the winter or next year.

Yes. If it needed another 3000 tons of sand, why wasn't that in the mix when, they built it? Has me flummoxed.