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Grnz could have made this whole situation a lot easier by front footing the issue when the allegations were made. Surely they could have conducted their own investigation whilst the spca was doing their own. It happens in business all the time, simultaneous investigations. if found guilty the book must be thrown, abhorrent, disgusting practice.

Lazarus still draws wide - no doubt the second row awaits in the final!

Anyone that endorses this must go tbh. These people will end greyhound racing here. The photos very clearly show whats happening. Cant believe the riu and nzgra have done nothing

Oh guys please, sod the frickn sodding coin toss! its not doin my nerves any good (geezuz its only 7.26am thurs and I could do with a drink already at this rate I'll never make it to Fri) Lazzie and The Faith (yes! and The Faith he's still ours) got a job to do on Fri and I for one hope the boys rip right through it!!!!! GOOOOO!!!!! LAZZIE BUILT KIWI TOUGH!!!!! GOOOO THE FAITH!!!!! LETS BE SEEIN YUH MATE COME ON NOW!!!!! Cheers Iraklis

I have to admit it was never going to be easy off wide draws for Lazarus, but that run last night on a 1.52 mile rate was massive when taken into perspective. I just hope come final night its handlebars down by Mark and we see a true stayers run. Sitting back wont cut the mustard.

Mrs Hesi here I don't know why he didn't have the winner and quinella here, my name is Deb and he always thinks I'm a nutter Silly boy

Animal Welfare (Racing Industry Greyhounds) Code of Welfare 2013 GRNZ Health and Welfare Standards. Minimum Standard #16.

I agree. It appears that the photos viewed are not all the same. Arguing aside, the rules are still very clear and have been since 2013. Whether you agree with the rule or not, it is and was the rule since that date. It was heavily publicised via website, email, and posted hard copy. You ignore rules at your own peril.

I disagree with most on this thread. I see nothing wrong with using a dead animal skin on the end of a lure. This person they have hung out to dry for 16yrs for attaching a dead skin on a lure in Australia is a witch hunt and a travesty of justice, a complete over reaction to animal right activists. Do not get me wrong, I have zero tolerance for live baiting, and this before it became fashionable with the advent of animal right activism. It is abhorrent, and people caught doing these things need to be punished severely, but extrapolating this out to include rabbit skins, and possum skins, and sheep skin, is a nonsense, and a complete over reaction. There f#cken dead. I have seen the photos, and in my opinion mean zilch. They are poor quality, and show some person tying what could be anything on to what appears to be a piece of line. It supposedly shows a piece of material being tied on the line. It could be dead skin, it could be cloth, it could be tanned skin, it could be an old singlet, it could be anything. Without corroborating evidence such as eye witness statements and video evidence then this whole thing is going nowhere. It looks more like a witch hunt to me.

Please post your selections for all 8 races at Otaki on this thread with race 1 timed for 12.27pm Shield Challenge match is Howie vs Tony

1-1/2 2-3/5 3-4/6 4-1/2 bb 5-1/2 6-4/8 7-1/7 bb 8-2/9

Otaki R1 – 2,5 r2 – 1,5 R3 –5,7 R4 – 5,9 R5 – 1,3 r6 – 5,11 R7 – 11,13bb R8 – 2,6bb Good luck everyone. Thank you Peter.

R1: 5,6 R2: 2,5 R3: 4,5 R4: 2,8 R5: 4,5 R6: 8,14 B/B R7: 4,11 B/B R8: 6,11 Best of luck all

Yes that is true. However if three tosses in a row have come up Heads, the probability of flipping Tails on the next toss is still 50%.

R1 = 2x5 R2 = 4x5 R3 = 2x3 R4 = 2x6 R5 = 1x4 R6 = 4x13 Best Bet 1 R7 = 2x3 R8 = 1x6 Best Bet 2 Good luck in your efforts to win the Challenge Shield, Tony. I'm quite liking it on my wall, Tony, so please don't get carried away like you did Wednesday. Just pace yourself, so that you'll see out the distance of 12 meetings. Thanks, PJ.

Interesting sometimes you hear trainers, tipsters and scribes alike, say that draws don't matter, for me draws are huge and can't be under estimated in the outcome of a race, wether it be a maiden or a open class race, the second line as good as a 10m handicap.

Hiya R1: 5-6 R2: 2-5 R3: 1-4 .. BB R4: 3-8 R5: 2-4 R6: 1-6 R7: 4-12 .. BB R8: 3-14 Have a beaut day all, cheers Peter

R1.....2/4 R2.....1/4 R3.....4/9 R4.....2/4 R5.....1/4.....bb R6.....1/4 R7.....3/6 R8.....9/14

They did the draw for friday night on live radio this morning with the CEO of the Perth IDs He explained that they keep the three top seeds separated untill the final and then throw the others up in the air (so to speak) to make up the fields. It is unfortunate that Purdons two are in the same race but Gary Hall has the same happen in the first race with both of his together. So there is no conspiracy going on. Three wide draws for Laz so the odds in his favor now for a good one in the final. No one has "friends" when your running for a mill. They are all running for them selves and will be watching each other not just Laz. The pace will be hectic with a lot of the field liking to be in front. Non of these will be capable of running a last half in 54 over 2900 which is probably more like 3400 when you factor in the mobile start and the speed they will leave the gate. To my mind there are only two who can win Lazarus and Chicago Bull. Both are great stayers and will stay out the trip while the others will be gasping from the 600. There is only one way Lenny ,Soho or Tiger can win and that is if they are left in front with no attackers.AND THAT AINT GOIN TO HAPPEN! For those wanting to have a go on Fri the connections of San Carlo have been waiting for draw and are confident of leading all the way. Go LAZ

Race 9 1st - 12 Pleeze Bee W-$20.00 2nd - 8 Icebomb Q-$24.90 scr: 3,10,11,13,14,18 subs: #8 then #9 Only PJ (with the quinella), Porky and Roland (who added a nice BB) on the Jones jolter in the last and it took them to 3rd, 4th equal and 2nd respectively pushing a couple out of the points. Howie defends the Shield and faces Tony on Friday at Otaki. 861.80 Tony 25 400.00 Roland 18 384.80 PJ 15 384.00 Casper 11 384.00 Porky 11 334.80 Rosina 8 317.40 Dave 6 258.00 Rees 4 243.40 Hesi 2 212.00 Rex (Sir G) 1 -------------------points border-------------------------- 195.00 Gordy 183.00 Betty 172.00 Howie 169.00 Catalano 159.00 Maria 157.00 Cubes 150.00 Al 147.00 Maureen 147.00 Jen 140.00 Richie 134.00 Skelly 131.00 Ian 119.00 Robert 117.40 Rex (Mrzim) 108.00 Steve P 74.00 Sharne 61.00 Ray 61.00 Brian 61.00 Graeme 58.00 Jack 46.00 Korio 38.00 Rob 35.00 The Crucible 35.00 John 23.00 Pete 0.00 Jill 0.00 Steve 0.00 Punter Pete Dollars Table 861.80 Tony 721.80 Richie 656.80 Rees 652.60 Steve P 631.20 Catalano 613.60 Porky 578.00 Casper 555.80 Rosina 528.80 PJ 526.00 Roland 518.00 Maria ------- profit line------------------- 477.20 Dave 463.60 Rex (Sir G) 371.80 Cubes 344.00 Al 335.00 Sharne 310.20 Ian 305.00 Graeme 299.00 Gordy 297.80 Howie 295.00 Punter Pete 288.80 Rex (Mrzim) 278.00 Skelly 273.00 John 252.00 Betty 243.40 Hesi 231.00 The Crucible 229.00 Korio 223.00 Maureen 194.80 Nick 182.00 Jen 177.20 Jack 164.00 Brian 161.00 Gruff 154.00 Robert 114.00 Jill 114.00 Steve 103.00 Pete 61.00 Ray 38.00 Rob Points Table 25 Tony 25 Richie 18 Steve P 18 Roland 16 Rees 15 Catalano 15 PJ 11 Casper 11 Porky 10 Maria 8 Punter Pete 8 Rosina 6 Sharne 6 Dave 5 Rex (Sir G) 2 Hesi 2 Graeme 1 John See you all again on Friday at Otaki

Have Faith Overcheck! they could stuff up the draw and we could get a good one CosmicB yeh The Faith may not have enough points to make it in, but that don't stop him showin up Fri and givin the race a bloody good shake anyway!!! Cheers Iraklis

PJ I just realised I havnt put my second Best Bet on my picks. Always on the last race as usual .Not to late ?

Kotare, I like your style Flag U, if Mark P gets Nat over to drive The Faith (she has been known to get best from him and then some) hey even if it is 'weak heat' and both those Kiwis rip into it and kick ass, you'll hear me shoutin the bloody house down from Aucks!!!! Cheers Iraklis

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Saving the good marble for the final.

Going by the fields for Cromwell on Sunday.It looks like Jason is making a comeback on the flat.Hopefully his weight is somewhat stabilised,as there is no doubting his ability as a rider.

Should be easy to fix and the same as the UK. A person about 150m up the track with a very big white flag. He's in comms with the starter. He holds his flag up until all is clear. Puts it down when all is clear. Starter pushes the button. If a false start, then flag goes up again so jockeys can see there's a false start. Quite simple process but down here we're not looking at the best of World practise so we look stupid.

Incorrect bloke, quiet the reverse. With tax reform and a booming economy, which is happening right now, especially since Donald Trump became President, then you can expect the debt to reverse. Obama was responsible for most of the debt, spending more than any President in history. Trump is fixing it. Quiet simple really for those that are not blind.

R1: 5,7 R2: 1,10 B/B R3: 6,12 R4: 4,10 B/B R5: 4,6 R6: 5,6 R7: 6,9 R8: 1,6 R9: 4,7 Best of luck all

Listening to Dexter Dunn talk after the Cup, he said the horses' momentum was knocked when TigerTara broke down the back. He drew badly in the Free-For -All, and ran on solidly without ever threatening. His results did not reflect on how he actually went.

To be fair Chris didnt look comfortable in front of the camera . Great jockey etc but after the first 15 mins was a hard watch .

Bro , Look For , PJ's Tipping Competition Pukekohe Park New Zealand Saturday Have Fun ! R1: 6,9 Best Bet R2: 6,7 Best Bet R3: 7,9 R4: 8,10 R5: 4,11 R6: 1,4 R7: 2,13 R8: 9,10 R9: 7,15 Good Luck People's.

Meeting Schedule: Sat Nov 25 Pukekohe ------------------------------------ Wed Nov 29 Rotorua Fri Dec 1 Otaki Sat Dec 2 Ellerslie ------------------------------------- Fri Dec 8 Riccarton Sat Dec 9 Trentham -------------------------------------- Wed Dec 13 Ellerslie Fri Dec 15 Wingatui Sat Dec 16 Te Rapa -------------------------------------- Wed Dec 20 Matamata Fri Dec 22 Ashburton Sat Dec 23 Awapuni The Comp will feature two scoring systems- Dollars Championship This will simply be a cumulative tally of the dollars earned across the 12 days of the comp. The winner will accumulate the most money Points Championship Each meeting will be scored on the basis of a points allocation based on the dollar results for that day. The winner will accumulate the most points across the twelve days of the comp. 1st - 25 points 2nd -18 3rd - 15 4th -12 5th - 10 6th - 8 7th - 6 8th - 4 9th - 2 10th - 1

C'mon Army haven't you read the rule book if you're from Te Rapa, HB,Ellerslie,Awapuni and a couple of others you're exempt from criticism.