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Bit tough on Prom Queen Berri. She has won eight of nine but ' ..... lord help us if that's is the best we can come up with'? What more could she have done other than win the other start? She could well be a champion in the making. And as for shifting it north which Northern fillies can you identify who would strengthen the field and if there are any why have their trainers not come south? I think you will find that the dreadful spring weather is the reason for the lighter than usual field quality and numbers wise and indeed that and the road issues are the reason for the lack of Northerners at the cup meeting this year. What it does do is give the Southerners a crack at some good stakes and hey why not? I think the racing has been of reasonable standard, bar the 2000 Guineas rough house carry on , and at the end of the day the South deserves it's day in the sun.

a rare moment without children today and day off so movie date instead of Trackside

Not that anyone will give a flying toss , but here is how Mrs Cubes sees the Grand Final... Hurricanes versus the Bluemeisters The Crucible wins , Gordy not so much John is victorious , Geoff ( Whom Cubity holds in just about the toppest regard in these comps ) loses this time around Cubes obviously loses , Pete wins Hesi triumphs , Brian comes up short this time Porky greets the judge , Howie crashes and burns Let us allow the therom of the lucky dartboard to have one-point of slippage and therefore : CANES 3 / BLUES 2

What a stupid thread. The more races a dog has proves one thing, it is sound, and should be allowed to race as long as it stays in that condition regardless of starts. They are race dogs after all, and as long as they are competitive, age nor starts should stop them. I like to see older dogs with many starts under their belt still doing what they love doing. It all comes down to trainer management and placement.

Away for the Kerikeri Half-Marathon in the morning. Got to post early. Can someone keep an eye on any scratchings for me please? Thanks - and let's take this out Turbos!! Thanks for another great competition PJ. R1: 1,2 R2: 1,5 R3: 1,6 B/B R4: 1,2 R5: 3,6 R6: 9,18 R7: 1,3 B/B R8: 1,2 R9: 6,11 R10: 5,8 All the best Tom - thanks to my team-mates and let's finish well!

GO Go go my former teamies the 'Canes' - let's just hope that the whitecoats don't see me posting here because they told me just looking at anything to do with NZ racing and they would quadruple my prozac dose and thank you to the Cubemeister for stepping up

1. 3,4 2. 1,5 3. 2,7 4. 1,5 5. 2,8 6. 6,13 BB 7. 4,6 8. 3,10 BB 9. 9,11 10. 2,16 Well she's down to the wire, thanks for a great comp yet again Peter, always waited for this moment.....playing off with the champ & fellow Turbos primed for the show down..! All the best Turb's for ourlast shot at the silver Cheers & good luck P.J. and the Ferdies Moose out.

These people you refer to chevy are not just away from our shores. Sit down with any Primary school Principal and they will tell you plenty of stories about the number of waste of space NZers spitting out tonnes of kids who are destined to repeat the cycle. These Waste of spaces are incapable of looking after themselves, least of all a young impressionable child. The dumbing down of NZ society is happening before our eyes and the social and criminal problems that exist today will be dwarfed by whats around the corner.

Ok here's what ive done with the remaining $40 $5 Final Field Win bets....Riccarton R4-2 Flag The Groom Return $37.50 R5-3 Heni Return $15 R9-11 Lady Amadeus Return $30 Tauranga $5 Final Field Win bets R3-2 Demonetization Return $23 R4-1 Selfie Return $15.50 R3 $5 Double 2-7/1 Jockey Challenge Jason Waddell return $15

Well first things first I am not Morty(he goes by the name Midget you might be aware or has amnesia struck you?) I am afraid if you are worried about the comparison with international fields that horse has well and truly bolted. It would not matter where in NZ you ran those races the standard would not be up to the best Aussie class. Witness Sharrock's reluctance to test Kawi(our 'best') in Aussie again despite spending the last four years telling us how he was going to deal with them when he matured What I mean by decent fields is decent betting fields and a selection of good riders not suggesting they are high class lineups. Most importantly the South is getting a decent share of the stakes

Yeah well should the southerners be put at a disadvantage if they want to contest the race by travelling north and shagging their season? You only need to look how form dips after Southern horses go to the Wellington Cup. Travel is an unfortunate fact of life and bear in mind the Northerners can get flights south whereas there is no regular flight north. I don't think the fields are too bad this carnival - some of the supporting races have been excellent betting fields I know I am biased but I am tipping Pitty to have a huge day today.

Tactical affair this week? Normally 2 or 3 Blues would have posted by now. Memo must have gone out - "post late team, post late!!" Canes trying to throw them off their game with some abnormally early posts. R1: 1/2 R2: 1/2 R3: 1/7 R4: 2/10 R5: 3/6 R6: 3/9 bb R7: 1/8 R8: 1/2 bb R9: 6/11 R10: 2/8 All the best to our Reds team-mate, Gordy and good luck to all of the Blues, but go the mighty Canes! Peter - thanks very much for the comp.

No need for that comment. Not kind.

Cubes has gotta leave early for Riccarton tomorrow 'cause we have a runner in the first ( at 11:10 am ) of a 12 race card......... So better post now . Good Luck to Pete and the Blues .Cubity actually flew up to Auckland yesterday morning , had lunch @ that Villa Maria place by the airport , and then flew back south in the evening . Bloody tiring day at Cubes' age it must be said.... Race 1...#1 , #2...BB Race 2...#2 , #8 Race 3...#1 , #7 Race 4...#1 , #10 Race 5...#2 , #3 Race 6...#6 , #9 Race 7...#1 , #2...BB Race 8...#1 , #9 Race 9...#7 , #11 Race 10...#10 , #12 Thanks to fellow 'Canes teaminators from just a humble 3 dimensional last minute substitute . And as Cubes gets sent out amongst the pissed throng at NZ Cup day at Riccarton tomorrow to get her ladyship another Lindauer , we are confident the MIGHTY MIGHTY HURRICANES will be well on the way to glorious PJ Comp Trans-Tasman victory !!!

a lot of paper and felt pens. Our 2 year old must listen to me too much as if she comes into the lounge and Trackside is on she says " Go Go" and throws her arms around

Good on ya Aqua, I warming to Trump a tiny tiny tiny bit. I am going to be very interested in how his tax cuts helps his voters.

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Good points to think about Jase. I would just like to take this opportunitry to thank you very much for your work in running the club.Also to your wonderful family,especially Sarah, for you giving your time to us.

This is probably a good chance for me to say thanks for all the support you have shown the Cookie Clan throughout this club and I am sure our big pay day will come soon. Think we need a well earned spell for everyone and hope we all come back fresh next year ( I wont call for numbers for next year yet as still over 2-3 months away if we kick off on Wellington Cup day again but hope we are all back next year and maybe even some returner next year get Mossey to pull Gruff's leg ) But some food for thought in the break any changes people would like to see and any gripes on the way we do things ( constructive feedback though please ) One thing for me is do we instead of having 2 goes each do we just all have 1 go and bet a larger crack or would the people drawn week 19 get bored of having to wait 4 months odd to bet?

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R1 = 1,2 R2 = 1,2 Best Bet New Zealand R3 = 1,7 R4 = 2,10 R5 = 3,6 R6 = 2,9 R7 = 1,2 R8 = 1,2 R9 = 6,10 Best Bet Australia R10= 5,8 Turbos to finish on a high. Thank you.

Hope u make some Bucks punting pete R1--1/2 R2--9/13 b R3--1/5 R4--6/10 R5--4/8 R6--13/15 R7--1/4 R8--8/10 R9--8/9 R10--10/16b Good day for it Thanks PJ

Peter , if needed , here are some SUBSTITUTE TIPS for you. It has been my pleasure to help you out ! With the Festive Season fast approaching , i take this opportunity to wish you all a wonderful time with your Families and Friend's , and i hope you all stay safe. Good Luck to all Tipping Player's in the Grand Final. 4,6 * 2,8 4,6 4,7 7,8 10,12 1,6 3,7 1,8 2,6 *

Gotta love Kenny Rae's comments on the naming of his star on TV3 news last night. "Out of a mare called Finishing School, which produces Prom Queens , who are usually Super Easy!" No PC with a Westie.

Being older, I really enjoy the substantive basis of Brian de Lore’s articles in the Informant. I came through a communication era of challenged information, outside of conformity Brian delivers a subjective questionnaire of the figurative leaders of our state. He needs to be applauded, for he provides question marks where previously full stops prevailed. The nature of the revelations of his articles question whether the management of the RIB are “fit for purpose”. You can answer the questions individually because you are impacted by that question. I would say the balance sheet says NO. Let me put it this way, in 1996 exports for NZ wine were $60m, thoroughbreds were the same. Yes a lifetime to some, nowadays, they are looking at 1 $billion in 2018. We are lagging behind by furlongs. We were exporting product in 1996 at $90m, this coming year maybe $106m. I know bottles can increase in production terms, horses don’t at the same rate, but the incentives and trade input has not been the same. What does this reflect............cannabilisation. NZRB seems to think the same can prevail now. J Allen thinks he can grow the business from a small base, against international competition from all corners, then he is a legend in his own bathroom. The industry needs a return to investors, be it by returns on investment or a relief for investment, then some assurance can be gained for doing so. The plonkers in The RIB have a) no risk b)no understanding of betting and most of all c) no comprehension of how the industry in NZ works. When you you get people with or without experience governing the show, then you will have an example like Fletchers on the share market, difference being you can sell your shares. Not us...........we just have to suck it up...........that’s why we have no say part form B de Lore. Sad state of affairs....................

Race 6 yesterday at Addington Alta Orlando wouldn't budge when asked to score up behind the mobile and was not scratched. At the gallops if a horse fails to enter the starting stalls it is late scratched which is fair to the punter. I can understand if a horse breaks in the score up it is still deemed a starter as it seems the actual race starts before the starting point is reached. However to not even start to score up is surely a non starter and should be late scratched to be fair to the punter. Am I wrong?

Can you send me a copy, I better not tell Howie mine has gone astray. You better send a few tranquilizers over to Hesi, he will need a couple about 1:59pm today

Second line of that memo must have had "Bee Tee Junior" in there somewhere. Looking like the Blues trump card so far (along with John's girl, Petition).

Here we go - the big final. One last effort lads to put away these pretenders from the capital Good luck to Cubity - I think you have an unfair advantage with so many races on the your home track but we'll cope. May the best team win and hopefully there will be another comp in the New Year - I love these competitions.

R1 - 1-2 bb R2 - 1-7 R3 - 1-7 R4 - 2-5 R5 - 2-3 R6 - 6-16 R7 - 1-2 R8 - 2-9 R9 - 1-6 R10 - 5-8 bb Good luck TC, I am 0-2 against you so have my work cut out today. Thanks for all your work PJ and hopefully you are in a position to do it all again next year. GO BLUES

Am I wrong with the following? We're these facts or fabrication? Please set me right here! What I find interesting in this whole matter is the cash payments for vitamins? Why do you pay exorbitant amounts of CASH for a small bottle of vitamin formula and try to cover it up? If it's legit, why don't you want it on the books? Why was the 2nd phone never openly disclosed? As a byline, I also see the supposedly responsible Vet was on course during the recent Flemington carnival. I love the fact this situation was only uncovered as the "vitamins" were sent to David Hayes in error ... That "edge" has cost not only DOB & MK but the entire racing industry...

Hesi's picks for the Canes: R1: 1/2 R2: 1/2 R3: 1/6 R4: 2/9 BB R5: 1/6 R6: 2/11 R7: 1/2 R8: 1/11 R9: 10/11 R10: 5/8 BB Time for talking is over, lets bring it on Good luck Brian Last hurdle to cross Canes to be champions again, suck it up and let's go Thanks for another comp PJ, much appreciated And good luck to our teammate with the many faces, in the first today

a bit of friendly banter... I prefer to by pass Auckland mate...Coromandel and the rock oysters and Snapper keep me happy until the next trip up your way ! LOL I hope to be on a 10/2 win ratio after today and you can join the other 7 / teams...cursing the supreme team work and silent behind the scenes CANES action plans. Don, be stuck in Auckland traffic trying to sort ya bets on ya flash mobile (Mr first time right)....I have Informed Mr Plod...who is on the lookout for ya. To add a little more pressure, I am posting early so you stub your big toe !!! .... GO THE MIGHTY CANES. R1: 1/5 R2: 1/13 R3: 6/7 R4: 2/10 R5: 3/6 R6: 3/9 B/B NZ R7: 1/2 R8: 2/3 R9: 5/7 B/B OZ R10: 5/10

Good Luck to everyone...some in here don't think it is as good as other comps but anyway maybe next time they will not be able to enter... there MUST be a winner so if Pentathlon wins there might be a few sharing..LOL. time will tell.

yeah thanks you two...I had enough trouble sneaking out to the races with youngsters...let alone running a syndicate. Cheers Look forward to next year..pen me in....I,m a certain starter...have a nice Christmas with the Kids.

Gobstopper for 1st Pentathlon for 2nd Sureasyouwereborn for last

Sarah reads all email received for the club so I'm sure she will get a kick out of hearing you say that (she is a trooper and helps where she can which makes my job easier)

$47.90 back for day Sorry guys.

STILL GOT BETS TO GO JASE

Biggest test this week over 1600m....Lubaya the upsetter...?

Aussie won't let them into NZ because they know full well it will give them a back door entry back to Australia. Ardern would have to convince them that wouldn't happen...and of course she can't. Yet another example of Labour bluster with no end product.

Good article... https://www.racenet.com.au/news/flawed-rankings-an-embarrassment-to-racing-20171117

Great bloke Kenny Rae I wish him and his partners all the very best

Sacked from Dream About Me. Real driver on board today but a shame about its draw.

He is a champ Kenny

The Aussies are starting to get pissed off about this constant whining too Chevy....she wants to watch her step. And get back to NZ and sort out the problems here rather than playing Mother Theresa...

1st = pentathlon 2 2nd = gobstopper 9 last= bee tee junior 5 Special thanks to the sponsors

Was a great win. Paid $5.50 as well. easy money

Awego, you're spot on. It was like a dodgem car derby. Stipes really need to toughen up. Rub them out...for several weeks & then we might get better racing and owners have a better chance of getting a decent result. Saturday for some was 12 months down the drain...

fingers crossed pj go lucy